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A New Hope: Kamala Harris

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  1. giddyup

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    Well-known that she slept with the mayor to climb the political ladder. It's been awhile, but I did likewise ridicule Bill Clinton for abusing the power of his office in seeking sexual favors.
     
  2. adoo

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    you are just parroting convenient false accusation against a female.

    You need to know the great divide between SoCal and NoCal, mutual distrust for one another,

    many critics of K Harris would make Willie Brown out to be as a power broker but he never was

    Willie Brown is a smart politician, too smart to ever run for a State office,
    Blacks/Latino voter have always hold it against Willie Brown for for helping the then-mayor of LA, Tom Bradley, to win No Cal votes for the Governorship
    Had Bradley won, he would have been Calif first Black Gov.
    But Bradlay lost a close race to fellow SoCal politician, Dumajian.

    While Bradley won the more populous SoCal votes comfortable, he lost big in No Calif.
    Blacks/Latino voter have always hold it against Willie Brown for for letting another SoCal politician to be beatTom Bradley BIG TIME in No Cal votes​

    Willie Brown was/is/will always be a political albatross in So Calif..​

    when K Harris was running for state office, association w Willie Brown is a politica liability in the more populated Southern Calif,

    K Harris is from No Calif, despite the political liability for her association w Brown, she defeated a SoCal opponent for the Calif AG office.

    she then ran for the US senate, i voter for her opponent, Lorenta Sanchez, a popular 5-term lawmaker from Calif
    K Harris easily won both No and So Cal
     
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    K Harris' greatest accomplishment as Calif AG---winning a huge settlement against Wells Fargo--has been instrumental in her winning SoCalif voters


    $25-billion foreclosure settlement was a signature achievement for Kamala Harris


    In September 2011, Harris pulled California out of the nationwide mortgage settlement talks after a coalition of state attorneys general and federal agencies spent nearly a year
    trying to hammer out a deal with the nation’s five largest mortgage servicers: Wells Fargo was accused of using illicit tactics to wrongfully foreclose on homeowners.



    Harris made the decision to pull out of the talks after she met personally with representatives from the banks, saying that
    the deal they were offering would have provided just $2 billion to $4 billion to California. Harris has dismissed the deal as “crumbs on the table.”

    When the nationwide mortgage settlement was reached more than four months later, California had secured separate commitments from the three biggest mortgage servicers
    — Bank of America Corp., Wells Fargo & Co. and JPMorgan Chase & Co----close to $25 billion



    the $25 billion settlement for Calif makes other state AG look like dumb asses
     
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    a male politician would not have made that reference.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    No, it doesn't.
     
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    Why do ambitious 29 YO women "succumb" to the charms of 60 YO powerful men?
     
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    You don't have the facts correct and they are part of the attacks on her that wouldn't be made against a male politician.

    Here are the facts.
    1. Brown was already separated but not divorced when he and Kamala had a relationship. They were openly dating for a prolonged period.

    2. Kamala was already assistant DA for Alameda county at the time they started dating.

    3. Brown wasn't elected mayor of San Francisco until after the two broke up.

    Perhaps, you should question why it was so easy for Harris' political opponents to fabricate such a story and why it was so easy for you and so many others to believe the smear campaign.

    Even though, Harris was already an assistant DA and Brown wasn't yet the mayor, nobody claims Brown slept with Harris to advance his career.

    The attacks only happen because Harris is a female.
     
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    Who knows why she did. She was already the assistant DA of Alameda County and Brown was not yet mayor.

    Brown also helped Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom, and Diane Feinstein with there careers but he didn't date any of those folks. So the idea that Harris needed to date Brown for help with a political career that was already underway before they started dating isn't based in reality.

    It is based on an idea that women often can only make it to success because they sleep with men.

    It is refusing to give credit to what she already accomplished on her own before the two started dating or that she was qualified on her own merit for the offices to which she was appointed, or elections that she won.
     
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    Why do ambitious 29 YO women "succumb" to the charms of 60 YO powerful men?
    The facts are in the link I provided:

    1 and 3.. Brown campaigned with Kamala on his arm but his real estranged wife accompanied him at his swearing in ceremony. I guess he developed a conscience. He's had girlfriends since. A deputy assistant DA is nobody to the voting public unless they are the candidate.

    2. She was on the campaign trail with him bur surprisingly discarded at his "coronation", but she took two high-paying appointments from Brown with leaves of absence from her deputy DA position.

    Harris still acts like a dingbat. How can the "first out" of the Democratic nominating process be the best qualified VP?
     
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    Who said "only"? You paint with a broad brush. I guess you would assuredly say that none have ascended that way?

    She's a dingbat and it's California; what more need be said?!
     
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    this warrants repeating



     
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    instead of accepting low ball settlement ($1 to $2 billion) from the bank, like other state AGs, K Harris went after the banks alone and got a $25 billion settlement for Calif

    the $25 billion settlement for Calif makes other state AGs look like dumb asses

     
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    I didn't know her then; I'm talking about the giggly Kamala we see now who comes across as just plain loopy.

    This article specifies a whole team against WF. Probably the same with the others. Giving her all the credit?
     
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    They broke up before Brown was elected. He wouldn't be at the swearing in ceremony with the person with whom he'd broken up.

    She got to assistant DA because of the work she'd done. She won an elections years after she had stopped dating Brown.

    Biden was able to choose whoever he wanted. He chose Harris, and together they beat Trump. It's hard to say it was a bad choice.

    Harris isn't my favorite and wouldn't have been my first choice. But there is zero evidence she only advanced by sleeping with Brown. They were in a semi-long term relationship. She'd already advanced prior to that relationship.

    You trying to make an issue of the fact that Harris wasn't with Brown at the ceremony is meaningless since the two had broken up before he was elected.
     
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    You seem to be missing the fact that she had campaigned with Brown throughout but did not accompany him to his ceremony. The timing is interesting. One article says she broke up with him: why? Right as he was about to ascend to power? I wonder if he told her about his choice of a partner at coronation?!
     
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    So your argument then about why we all should be MAGA Republicans and ditch voting for Democracy is because the Democratic VP can be goofy, and has a cackle???

    I thought what people from your camp loved about Trump is that "He's not a politician, and just comes across as more genuine" yet when a woman in power shows a little human joy and silliness it's now a disqualifier???

    You guys make no sense, and honestly come off as very very small when you try to make this argument, or go into judgmental incel dude rants about her sex life years ago. Who gives a Fck who she fcked?
     
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    So your argument then about why we all should be MAGA Republicans and ditch voting for Democracy is because the VP can be goofy, has a cackle, and had sex???

    I thought what people from your camp loved about Trump is that "He's not a politician, and just comes across as more genuine" yet when a woman in power shows a little human joy and silliness it's now a disqualifier???

    You guys make no sense, and honestly come off as very very small when you try to make this argument, or go into judgmental incel dude rants about her sex life years ago. Who gives a Fck who she fcked? Trump had sex with a p*rn star while his wife was home with his newborn. How many times have you rant posted judgement about Trump and Stormy??
     
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