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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    We're not talking about tanks in terms of time or cost
     
  2. Ottomaton

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    Buried in the video, he thinks the Ukrainians might break up the sub-munitions and use them as bomblets dropped from drones.



    Longer, more in depth discussion:

     
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  3. Space Ghost

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    You asked if the United States was attacked.

    The global war game scenario has a extremely low probability of a foreign invasion on US shores. We are scanning the globe endlessly for anything and everything ,especially troop movement. The munitions being used in Ukraine will do the continental US little good. It won't stop aircraft or missiles. We would destroy any troop transport ship that got within a 1000 miles of our shores. Should we rehash the 2nd amendment at this point?

    What happens when the global supply of munitions are going into an battle of attrition at a specific location on the globe, resulting in reserves being depleted globally? This would leave many countries unprotected in the event a large power like China or India were hoarding munitions secretly and decide to attack on of its enemies.
     
  4. pgabriel

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    If it were that important to supply someone we would just ramp up production. Munitions have never been a problem in any war we have been involved in.

    This isn't our war who knows what the issue is. It may just not be in the budget bur if we needed to produce more nothing in your scenario would hinder our ability

    If munitions were an issue we would have heard about it by now
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    In most extended wars munitions has been a problem. A big part of allied victory in WWII was that the US could keep weapons production up including ammunition and supply the Allies far more than the Axis power could.

    The long term occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan weren’t sustained battles that used up a lot of ammunition but there were occasional shortages and getting US troops supplied was always an issue with long term deployments.

    As Napoleon said “Skirmishes are won by tactics. Battles by strategy. Wars by logistics.”
     
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    The "signaling" this or that is freaking weird. There is no signaling. War is very real people and very ugly. There is nothing virtual about it.
     
  7. Amiga

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    Besides the fact that the US, Ukraine, Russia, China, and most other major military powers are not part of the treaty to ban this weapon, allowing for its fair use in war, this is a great point regarding the moral issue of using this weapon. Ukraine is not using it to indiscriminately kill their own civilians. They have a vested interest in using it as responsibly as possible to minimize harm to their own civilian population. But if they go beyond their border, it is a much more valid moral issue for the US.
     
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    you'd have thought he would have remembered that on the road to Moscow.
     
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    Massive W for Brandon
     
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    LOL..... Well go on..... make a case for escalating things with India and Nigeria over Russia and China.....
     
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    ear crimes, including until a sleepy democrat does it.

     
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    i'm crying at Gulf of Cope lol

    this goes down with napoleon and hitler invading russia...putin ****ed around and found out a ton...more importantly, we all found out about russia's capabilities aside from mutually assured destruction (which we already knew).
     
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  16. dmoneybangbang

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    Things change and I prefer a leader who is pragmatic.
     
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  17. Space Ghost

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    Then we need to stop electing boomer leaders and start electing Gen X.
     
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    As I've said elsewhere, I wish Biden would step aside. DeSantis? No thank you. Newsom? Sigh. Sure.
     
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    I missed this post. This is a really good article explaining the situation
     
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    I don't disagree but Biden has proven that his long tenure is valuable in negotiating in terms of knowing people. He also is far from stubborn, something that often comes with aging
     

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