firing Stone will have no negative impact other than to Tillman's pride how can he not objectively see how bad this free agency period was?
The likely correct way to frame this is how can Stone not objectively see that the fans are not complete idiots? Just level with us. It’s 2023. People understand the cap and how trades work. Especially with the assets we have here as a fanbase community like CF. Say what you want about Morey but the guy was always aware and acting as though he wasn’t just speaking to 12 year old fans. He knew he had very smart people who followed the team and he had to own up to the reality of the situations and the criticisms while also providing a positive spin. I’m okay with positive spin but it’s really inexcusable that from a personality perspective Stone continues to act as though he’s always the smartest person in the room and everyone else is an idiot. He does this with NBA GM’s by writing checks he can’t cash in the media and with fans too obviously. He’s not a bad GM in terms of what he’s built but I continue to believe and more and more evidence shows that the guy does not have the personality and judgement to be a senior leader. He’s too damn egotistical and when it’s that obvious you then won’t be respected or trusted. When you can’t be respected or trusted it undermines everything.
What the hell are you talking about? This is some grade A parasocial behavior can you even show clips or vids where Stone was being egotistical to the fans and acting like everybody else is an idiot? Did you even meet him in person to come to this conclusion? Meanwhile Morey the dude you say respects the intelligence of everyone asked for Klay Thompson, the 2 lotto picks, one other good player and a future pick for Ben Simmons. Is that respecting the intelligence of the other party? Wtf. Other teams just accused Morey of not making trades in good faith you think a guy like that garners the trust of everyone? And how many times has Morey called players assets in public? How many times has been accused of lying to players? Just ask Dwight Howard, Jeremy Lin, Melo and Cp3 if Morey lied to them or not. Hey remember when Morey resigned as GM cuz he said he wanted to spend time with his kids? Then became the Sixers GM like 2 weeks later? That's the paragon of virtue you are describing? This is why Stone haters get no respect from me. Y'all just straight up lie and distort the facts just to suit your argument.
So you just insult cuz you can't say anything right? Stfu. Remember your argument is about the fans being so smart and knowledgeable lmao what a clown.
With a response like you gave I don’t owe you sh$t. Being a Stone only fan sure looks like a miserable place to be. Lots of emotions going around on that site I guess.
Nah I'm a Rockets fan unlike you who is clearly sucking off Morey's balls so hard you can't even form a coherent thought anymore. But then again I'm not surprised ad hominem attacks, projection and strawman arguments are the core staples of any dumbass on the internet.
The Nets trade was solid. He just screwed up trading Allen. The Gordon trade was terrific. It landed us Cam Whitmore. People focus too much on the small moves and ignore the big ones.
This thread is so sad. The same posters liking the same recycled whiny comments. Here are the facts. We are three deep at nearly every position and still have cap space. We will be way better this season. Amen and Cam look fantastic, and Jabari looks like he could have a breakout season. We basically have a six player core we drafted over three draft classes, and we have all our FRPs going forward. We have several easily tradeable contracts, and FVV's contract lines up perfect with a Green extension. But yeah, let's fire Stone over a few SRPs. Brilliant.
Stone is either clueless on how to manage the cap OR he just wanted to fulfill the cap obligation and has no desire to truly better the team in the best way possible. Ignorance or apathetic to cap management.
is he a great draft evaluator? I feel like most of our picks, other than ALP (which a LOT of this board wanted), were pretty much shoe-ins to be drafted at our spots. The only pick that Stone really had to make a choice and decision on were drafting Green over Mobley (which a lot of fans still think was the wrong decision). the free agency thing is bad but we don't know the full stories. it very well could be we had to outbid others by a CONSIDERABLE amount for them to consider to come here to houston. but for me it's the trades and asset management that is absolutely bottom tier. we routinely get fleeced on all our deals and let our players value plummet and dwindle. Jarret Allen, John Wall, Oladipo, KJ Martin, and then striking out on 3 first round picks (Garuba, Christopher, Tyty)... it's pretty head scratching to say the least. Yes, we do have a nice looking core.. but I'm not sure how much credit you can give Stone for that when looking back.
no man, the facts are that we passed on Jarrett Allen. Tried to sign Olidipo to a big contract. Started the rebuild with Wall, Wood, and KPJ. Our draft picks save for Sengun and Tari are questions (Jabari doesn’t even look like a top 5 prosoect in that draft). We just paid someone to take all of our other 1st round prospects. We stuck with the worst coach in the nba for 3 years and extended KPJ prematurely the same year he drove off at halftime. And apparently we just gave Dillon Brooks $90 mil. The roster is not very good. these are facts. I’m tired of the bar being so low. We are better than this.
Yes, trading Allen was a massive mistake. None of the rest of what you said matters to today. And I very much disagree with your draft analysis.
For every new activity in any thread about Stone, I'm just going to post Glengarry Glen Ross quotes from here on out. The leads are weak? The f*cking leads are weak? You're weak!
Stone's trade history and asset management are beginning to stack up pretty poorly. I don't give him credit for draft picks either, which most have been obvious choices. A couple wins, but that many picks, u r going to hit a couple.
Dam! I was hoping to get Butler. https://www.nba.com/blazers/news/tr...badji-and-john-butler-jr-to-two-way-contracts
No we're not. Have you seen Fertita businesses? Nothing he owns is good. They are all mediocre at best. Even the restaurants he has bought out, went from decent food to borderline just edible. I'm not expecting much from his sports franchise. Barely watchable.
Landale is a offense center, does not help at all with our interior defense. Out played Ayton? Ayton gave up on the coach and the team, he did not care about playing anymore in the series and then lied that he was hurt. He hated the coach. I watched at least 6 games that Landale played this year that he played a lot of minutes. He is tough, nice shooting touch, hard worker and will rebound….nice guy and I’m glad he received a contract…he worked hard for it. The problem is he does not fit what the Rocket’s needs. Sengun is our 20 and 10 guy not a interior defender, we need someone to balance our inside presence. Why not Jarrett Allen? Cleveland is trying to get rid of him because of his PLAY in the playoffs. Capela? We really needed Lopez. To be a good and competitive team we need a edge on our team, we need a great defense and bench. Amen and FVV will be elite defenders pressuring the ball, Dillon, Tari and Jabari will be great on the perimeter but once they get past our perimeter defense….it is a LAYUP DRILL under our basket. The Rockets offered Dwight Powell twice as much they gave Landale and Dwight said no. Is Dwight Powell worth 16 million? I know…I know…it’s for one year. Powell and Landale are not interior defenders and as a BACKUP CENTER Powell is making 4 million a year with Dallas not 8?!
