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Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. fadeaway

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    Great Conquistador, do you believe that Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player?
     
  2. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Be better. 2021 stats are irrelevant now. Porter has the higher shooting percentage, efficiency and win shares in 2022. Refer to the links that I posted. We can't cling to the dream that Jalen Green is the next Kobe. He doesn't have the venom.
     
  3. DeBeards

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    WHAT?!
     
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  5. AroundTheWorld

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    even the Paulo kid (who doesn't like Alpi) can't follow that
     
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  6. Verbal Christ

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    Real question - goblet squat, front squat or landmine squat? I've been really digging the landmine squats lately easier on my joints.
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    Comparing the first two years of a player makes more sense?

    Comparing players at the same age and same stage of development.

    4th year KPJ having a ever so slightly higher scoring efficiency on lower volume than second year Green isn't some indication that KPJ is on track for a better career.

    Even this year with Green having half the NBA experience as KPJ had more positive impact on the team than KPJ:

    Green on/off
    https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/player/4865/onoff#tab-team_efficiency


    KPJ on/off
    https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/player/4601/onoff#tab-team_efficiency


    And that's giving the advantage to KPJ in terms of comparing a 4th year guy to a second year guy.
     
  8. cml750

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    KPJ vs. Green........ Let the best man win. Competition is a good thing. Now back to Sengun. ;) I hope Landale pushes Sengun.
     
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  9. NewAge

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    … and then out of the blue comes in Whitmore and bullies his way to the starting SG spot!
     
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  10. NewAge

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    That’s such monumental BS!
     
  11. HardenReturns

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    Don't be prejudiced.
    You don't have to get married to get some; lots & lots of good solid heterosexual pumping going on here... not to take anything away from the Turkish LGBTQJDYFAMKetcetc community of course.
    (Incels galore too, but not unlike potatoes, they exist everywhere anyway.)
     
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  12. Verbal Christ

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    Just for levity:

    Jalen Green 143 career games (started every one)
    KPJ 196 games (started 146)

    There is not a huge disparity in playing time so expectations SHOULD be kept closer to one another without needing to inject years of service.
     
  13. HardenReturns

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    So he shaved his beard because now he has another? :D

     
  14. NewAge

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    That’s such monumental BS!
    How can you compare numbers for a #30 pick who was blacklisted by his team, traded to another team and made prove himself in the G-league to those of a #2 pick who was featured from Day 1 and spoon-fed possessions?

    First two years of both KPJ and Green were disappointing. KPJ has made progress and is up to NBA average now. Green’s 3rd and 4th years will be critical to figure out where he will be…
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    So how you account for efficiency? You can account for volume with draft position and opportunities but what about efficiency?

    A young player being thrown into the fire to score and be the center of defensive attention implies it would be harder for him to have a higher efficiency yet he did.
     
  16. Haymitch

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    This makes me question Fischer's legitimacy. For those of us who have been internetting for a long time and following the NBA, we saw how Fischer came to relevancy. He was a "fake it until you make it" person who used to just post fake things until he gained a big enough following and became legitimate - which I do believe he is legitimate today.

    But lately he's been saying some odd stuff about the Rockets. The alleged Green discussions - I don't believe that. Maybe, at most, Stone brought up Green in convos with other execs to get a better read on his perceived value. Lowe and Woj have talked before about how GMs do this frequently, but it's never reported by the more legit reporters because it's not a serious trade discussion. It's just Intel gathering. You learn more about your players value and it helps you better gauge other teams' players' value.

    And now the idea that Brooks will start at 4 and Jock at 5, that seems insane. I really hope it's not the case! Jock is closer to a 3rd string C than a starting C.
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    That's not how it works. 4 years of NBA training and experience along with the development mentally and physically that happens for people at ages 19-21 means the 4 years vs 2 years matters.

    That's two more years of NBA experience AND TRAINING while being two years older which means later stage of brain and physical development.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    It really isn't. I'm sorry reality is offensive to you.

    Being spoon-fed possessions doesn't make the ball go in the rim.

    In fact it makes it harder especially for young rookies and sophomores. Being asked to be the center of defensive attention with no competent supporting cast and Green was still more efficient than KPJ in his first two years and had a significantly higher win share and VORP and BPM
     
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    Good thing this is Jake Fischer's idea, not Ime Udoka's (I hope not).
     

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