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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    The study has some limitations. First, the accuracy of POTS and POTS-associated diagnoses is crucial for study validity. Second, the general awareness and diagnostic vigilance of POTS and access to adequate diagnostic modalities are decisive for POTS incidence reliability. Third, the generalizability of this report is limited to a specific population. Moreover, the traditional POTS diagnostic criteria require symptoms to occur over a duration of at least 3 months — that is, at least 90 days — which is the assessed period. As such, some of the affected individuals may have recovered later. We therefore cannot exclude the possibility that the incidence of POTS and POTS-associated diagnoses was overestimated.

    Feel free to take another booster shot. I have no problem with it. That’s the beauty of a grown person to make a smart or stupid decision.
     
  2. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    The study has some limitations. First, the accuracy of POTS and POTS-associated diagnoses is crucial for study validity. Second, the general awareness and diagnostic vigilance of POTS and access to adequate diagnostic modalities are decisive for POTS incidence reliability. Third, the generalizability of this report is limited to a specific population. Moreover, the traditional POTS diagnostic criteria require symptoms to occur over a duration of at least 3 months — that is, at least 90 days — which is the assessed period. As such, some of the affected individuals may have recovered later. We therefore cannot exclude the possibility that the incidence of POTS and POTS-associated diagnoses was overestimated.

    Feel free to take another booster shot. I have no problem with it. That’s the beauty of a grown person to make a smart or stupid decision.

    There’s a reason why people turned against your so called “medical practitioners”. The American people have been lied to during this whole pandemic. The medical establishment has lost most of their credibility by beholden to big Pharma and the government, not that their reputation has been stellar pre-pandemic to begin with. Why do you think natural health, supplements, chiropractic, acupuncture, massage therapy and the lesser known prolotherapy, prp, stem cells etc are popular? If your medical establishment doctor had done his or her job and provided real answers for their patients, the people wouldn’t have to seek alternative care wouldn’t they?

    If you want to talk about greed. The greed from the “ alternative health folks” is pale in comparison with the greed of the medical establishment. How much money did they make working with big pharma and the government throughout this pandemic ? How many patients were unnecessarily intubated? Reimbursement for an intubated patient is around 40k. How many were given the expensive, toxic and not effective drug Remdesivir that can cause kidneys failure where reimbursement is around 16k per patient? How about their expensive but ineffective oral drugs like Paxlovid and molnupiravir full of side affects?

    That makes your $99 vitamins cocktail snake oils from your average chiropractor, DO, ND seemed like a safe bargain to me.

    PS: sorry for the double post. The wife wanted me to take out the trash and I couldn’t edit in time.
     
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  3. Ubiquitin

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    https://aspe.hhs.gov/sites/default/...e9c595730d73fd66d/covid-antivirals-report.pdf

    About a million doses of Paxlovid were prescribed at $530 a dose. Paxlovid was not indicated for everyone, just patients at risk for moderate-severe disease. I am not even sold on how well it worked.

    Patients in respiratory distress not responding to supplemental oxygen get intubated. People cannot breath 40 breaths a minute for long. Patients with COVID pneumonia get respiratory distress. Patients with COVID pneumonia get intubated. Patients who have COVID pneumonia who are intubated have much worse outcomes. But to intubate or not was not a greed decision. The professional fee for an intubation is about $100-200. Median cost for ICU care costs about $3k per day. The goal at all points in the pandemic was to get patients out as soon as safe to make room for the next patient who was sick. Average length of stay was less than 2 days.
    So when insurers were faced with paying for a $500 drug or paying $5000 for an admission, they paid for the wünderdrug every time.

    Stop getting your medical information from wellness bros on YouTube and Twitter. Maintain your skepticism, but don’t fall for false allures either.

    This is not a liberal vs conservative issue. But somehow it’s a cultural war issue. In this case the crunchy granola liberals, evangelical religious right, the ”wellness” crowd, and increasingly crypto bros have created an unexpected alliance against modern medical science. If I had to align with a counter culture, that’s not the one I would pick.
     
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    Paxlovid is very effective.
     
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  6. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    You liberals are such strange birds. You used to be against the establishment no matter what establishment it is. You seek alternative thoughts and ways of doing things, you allowed discussions for different ideas. Now, you’re marching locksteps with the establishment no matter what establishment it is.

    There is a reason why the establishment tried to censor medical truth tellers on social media, and maybe that’s why the people sensed that the medical establishment is in cahoots with the government to put out their propaganda so the masses have to fall in line.

    You said maintain your skepticism, but don’t fall for the false allures either and yet you fell hook, line and sinker for the medical establishment by the amount of Covid shots that you took.

    Right now bros science and wellness seem as credible as anything the medical establishment put out. Do not get me wrong, I am not condemning medical doctors and medical scientists. The truly smart, talented and non corrupt ones that are beneficial to mankind are out there, and yet they are being attacked mercilessly for the very simple reason: just follow the money!

    You love Dr Fauci don’t you. Lol
     
  7. Ubiquitin

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    My NIH Biosketch would say I am apart of that medical establishment based on your interpretations.
     
  8. No Worries

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    Doing your own research ... Good to see you using that advanced degree in virology.

    Found this selfie on your FB page ...

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    You be you, man.
     
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  9. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    Tell us if you’re super vaccinated man?
     
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    I followed the advice of my physician. How about you?
     
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    One man's disinformation that will lead to more deaths is another's man free speech not matter how alike it is to screaming "Fire" in a crowded theater.

    Judge Blocks US Officials From Tech Contacts in First Amendment Case

    A federal judge on Tuesday blocked key Biden administration agencies and officials from meeting and communicating with social media companies about "protected speech," in an extraordinary preliminary injunction in an ongoing case that could have profound effects on the First Amendment. From a report:

    The injunction came in response to a lawsuit brought by Republican attorneys general in Louisiana and Missouri, who allege that government officials went too far in their efforts to encourage social media companies to address posts that they worried could contribute to vaccine hesitancy during the pandemic or upend elections.

    The Trump-appointed judge's move could undo years of efforts to enhance coordination between the government and social media companies. For more than a decade, the federal government has attempted to work with social media companies to address a wide range of criminal activity, including child sexual abuse images and terrorism. Over the last five years, coordination and communication between government officials and the companies increased as the federal government responded to rising election interference and voter suppression efforts after revelations that Russian actors had sowed disinformation on U.S. social sites during the 2016 election. Public health officials also frequently communicated with the companies during the coronavirus pandemic, as falsehoods about the virus and vaccines spread on social networks including Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

     
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  12. Ubiquitin

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    Makes you wonder what this 2018 appointed Judge was trying to do when making a politically charged injunction on a holiday, least of which was July 4.

    Our federal courts were filled with clowns by clowns.
     
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  14. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    So how many Covid shots did your physician tell you to get? I followed the advice of my awesome doctor too and he said it is up to me so I did not take any shots.
     
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    I had 3. Only because I wanted to travel. I think/hope I'm ok. A friend of mine got myocarditis, but recovered quickly.
     
  16. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    I cancelled a couple of overseas trips for that particular reason. I’m glad that I did. Wishing you good health bro!
     
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  17. No Worries

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    We must have different doctors. My awesome doctor recommended the shots.
     
  18. tinman

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    Ice cube didn’t get the shot

     
  19. tinman

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    I got the shot cause I’m a 99er and remember the summit and Houston wrestling
    But I don’t know if young people should have gotten it

    non of the shots stopped the spread of it
     
  20. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    Congratulations!
     
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