I guess I just disagree. Sure it’s improved because of FVV but I see a 30-win team at best. I think they should have done better with their assets and cap space. I’m very down on the rockets front office. Having to root for KPJ and Dillon brooks also sucks.
Go look at next year's FA class. Now think about Sengun/Green and when they are eligible for extensions (assuming they end up really taking huge steps these next few seasons), we just had to use it. There is no reason to stay put this season, none. We don't have our own picks to give away due to the idiotic Westbrook trade, and Nets seemed to be trying to stay competitive, so their picks may not be as valuable. It's nobody's fault that FVV was the most valuable player available this off-season (since Kyrie/Draymond/Middleton were always going to resign). It's about perspective guys. The Brooks contract isn't even that bad considering that the cap is going to continue to increase. FVV deal is essentially a 2 year deal. Landale is 1 year and so is Green and Patty. The young kids we traded were the shitty ones, the ones that had no chance to play this year anyways. Tyty - FVV is the starter, Amen the back with KPJ as another back up. Josh - Green is the starter, KPJ the back up KJ - Brooks is the starter with KPJ also as the back up, and also Tari and Bari looking at time as SF as well. Usman - I think he was the only that could of competed for time, but has shown to be nothing special. Big picture, we kept the important players and moved the players that were likely to lose their time, so really not terribly heart broken.
I heard Dallas wanted him and he wanted to play for Dallas but they only had a MLE, 12.3 million….that was it. I would have given him 15-17 million for 3 years max…no more
what has Stone done that has measurably helped this team? He tanked and drafted. He needed to show he could put together a decent team this offseason and the roster im looking at is a bad team. Free agency isn’t the only way you can improve, but this guy just gave Dillon Brooks $80 mil and no trades that help us. This guy is not a legit GM.
the only thing they could do is trade then either the young guys worth more and/or the Nets assets. Right?? Seriously that's all they can do. Then you get a guy that is better but adding him to a still young team that will not win it all. You also send out one or more of Green/KPJ/Eason/Sengun/Jabari/Whitmore/Amen before you can even see them play with vets or with a real coach? How do you really know what you have yet with 2 players that have played 2 seasons, 2 players that played one, and 2 rookies? Then the Nets assets are all you have draft wise. So you trade that and have absolutely no picks or swaps to trade when your young guys are entering their primes and you want to get a guy to fill in a position or trade one of the young guys with Nets assets to upgrade? So in essence I disagree this is absolutely what the Rockets should have done and was within the parameters of what was available. It's sink or swim now you have 3 top 5 picks, another guy Whitmore that was on many scouts top 5, and Eason and Sengun. If they do not improve then the 3 year tank was a failure but I don't believe that and think there is a lot of talent there.
So current roster is... FVV - Mills - Amen Thrilla - Scoot - Whitmore Villain (yuck) - Uncle Jeff - Tate Tari - Bari - Sengawd - Landale 2way: Hudgins + Days So need more front-court depth.... and I still only see a 9th or 10th seed Our competition: SAS - POR (younger) - UTH - OKC - MN - DAL
Good eye.... I typed it wrong ( i always interchange them in my head... too rhymtastic) My point still stands and yes... I see Ime preferring a former champ over a very young (but talented) player while he builds "culture" FVV - Mills - Amen Thrilla - Scoot - Whitmore Villain (yuck) - Uncle Jeff - Tate Bari - Tari - Sengawd - Landale 2way: Hudgins + Days So need more front-court depth.... and I still only see a 9th or 10th seed Our competition: SAS - POR (younger) - UTH - OKC - MN - DAL
Their only assets prior to the signings are Sengun/Green/Bari/Tari. Those are the only guys that could maybe be enough to bring something of value. Did you want to trade them? The Nets pick, not exactly at the highest value right now, maybe later this year if they prove to thread water and be play in good at most. All the other players we traded were former low FRPs or low SRP that played on a bad team and never showed much. KJ got numbers but he was not very skilled. I'm not sure what you guys were expecting really. Maybe expectations are too high for y'all. Be realistic.
you can’t sell the fans on making a pivot and then make excuses for an underwhelming result. There is no world where it’s okay to pay a team a 2nd round to take your late first round prospect with one year experience. That shouldn’t happen. You can try to downplay the value but it matters. And not having a good plan B for Lopez matters. And over paying Dillon Brooks in a long term deal matters. Respectfully.
You are a diehard fan. You post here with us. Because you are a diehard, you know the value of our players, you knew the players that were available, and you also know that because of the shittiness of this team, it wasn't exactly an attractive situation. I get it if you were a casual fan and didn't know the realistic situation, therefore you could easily be duped by the front office. I get that you wanted magic out of the office, but the NBA just doesn't work that way. I think your expectations were unrealistic.
the bar is not high for me. Maybe don’t pay $80 mil to a wing that shot 39% last year from the field, and 32% from the 3. have a good plan B for the 35 yr old defensive player of the year in case he doesn’t want to leave his championship team. don’t pay someone to take a 1st round pick off your hands that u just drafted. Not a high bar.
The problem is that you were assuming there was no plan B. All we know is what is reported by the media. Maybe eventually sources will tell us that we were close to some trade, I don't know. Tyty and Usman probably had no value. Would you have liked the Rockets to release them instead? We lost a couple of second rounders and some cash, not exactly that bad of a deal, although, yeah ideally best not to give anything away, however, not exactly franchise changing. I'm not necessarily trying to defend the front office, since I think part of this is their own wrong doing (and let's face it, many us supported them going with young players only and seeing how **** worked out). The formula wasn't working, they are shifting gears now. They paid $80M for a really good defender. The front office hired a defensive coach that wants a defensive identity. I'm sure they would maybe have loved to trade for OG or for some other defensive wingman, but the price may be too high, so this was the next option. I'm definitely no fan of Brooks and I'm incredibly concerned that he wants to shoot more considering how inefficient he is, but I guess this was the best they could do. He really isn't a bad signing, but he is knucklehead so we will see.
I'd like to know when Christian Wood domino will fall? Surely an efficient selfish offensive player, with no desire to play team ball (set picks) and no desire to play defense, is in someone's radar.
