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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jun 15, 2020.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    Anger is a lot more manageable than passive-aggressiveness
     
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    Bought and Paid for=Roberts Supreme Court.
     
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    If it doesn't anger you that a corrupt right wing court just ruined the hopes of 35 million students then the issue is you. If you knew anything about this case you'd know Missouri made up fake laws to challenge the case. The court is so corrupt its not even funny.

    We're completely okay as a society with a corrupt Supreme Court.
     
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    As I’ve said before, I’m not worried about bakeries or website designers refusing certain demographics - but in our current direction, we’re headed toward a time when essential service providers (groceries, electric providers, cable providers) who have a monopoly somewhere will refuse to give service to someone and the courts will uphold it.
     
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    I agree with you - my previous post was directed at another poster
     
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    I don't think people in this thread realize how corrupt the student loan case is. If you don't think Biden has the power to forgive loans then that's fine but don't make up a fake standing case to sue the admin on. They make a complete mockery of the system.

    If you read the story behind the company if will enrage you. Our system is corrupt. If you're a college student I would lose faith in the system 10000%

    https://prospect.org/justice/2023-06-19-student-loan-cancellation-supreme-court-mohela/
     
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    You are high. Jackson had over 9 years as a judge before being nominated. Uncle Thomas, 1.5. The ONLY reason he was nominated is because he is a black conservative who was replacing another black Justice. If a white Justice had retired Thomas would have not been nominated. If ANYONE benefited from Affirmative Action it was Clarence Thomas.
     
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    Ah cool, I really hope your side goes strong and hard after this. I warned you guys about abortion, please make taking gay marriage away from millions of america your big 2024 issue. PLEASE!

    Nope, but you can be sure they will vote and it won't be for a Republican.
     
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    Confused on what's so bad about this reply?

    Pursuing diversity is a bad thing now? @AroundTheWorld
     
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    Good decisions, acting as a bastion of commln sense against all the left wing lunacy.

    (I do disagree with them onnabolushing Roe vs. Wade though.)

    I hope the justices have good personal security. Even reading some of the hateful and angry reactions here, you have to get worried tgat some of the left-wing extremists will go after them.
     
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    I fear for LGBTQ+ people having their right to marry ripped away in some states and that poor black kid in Alabama that wants to attend an in-state college.
     
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    Both these would be very wrong, and I don't see it happening.
     
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    Worth noting that the justice that benefited from affirmative action is also the same justice that benefited from a rich benefactor that paid for vacations and mortgages and paid for thomas’ grandson’s tuition.
     
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    Yeah, they're opening Pandora's Box. Evangelicals don't realize that society is a two-way street and their general demeanor makes me think they won't react kindly when "religious liberty" is used against them.

    SCOTUS says a football coach can pray at midfield after games and "encourage" his players to join him (never mind that tacit pressure from an authority figure is a real thing when you're in high school); let's see evangelicals stand up for the Muslim basketball coach in Michigan who decides to pray toward Mecca during a game and "encourages" his players to join.

    SCOTUS says a website designer is engaging in "speech" during her job (lol at the very notion of somebody hiring an independent website designer instead of using free templates on The Knot) and thus she can refuse business to gay couples (a protected class under the Civil Rights Act, reaffirmed by Justice Gorsuch to include trans people); let's see how an evangelical reacts when the Jewish "sandwich artist" at Subway refuses to put ham on their sandwich. That's now "speech", right?

    I would totally support Lorie Smith's refusal to make websites for gay couples if she were the graphic designer at a church and creating websites on behalf of that church. I do not support her entering the public sphere and wishing to discriminate against members of the public. It wasn't even 100 years ago when religions here were racist as a matter of doctrine. What if one of those sects suddenly "rediscovers" their teachings and decides that they cannot, as a matter of faith, serve black people anymore? Does this ruling protect that "sincere" act of faith now?
     
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    Extremist right wing republican supreme court looking for a way to receive more nra gifts…

     
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    California, a liberal state that pushes for the hated 'diversity' saw its black and hispanic enrollment basically halved after getting rid of AA. Why wouldn't it happen in a deep red state and at schools that already have putrid black enrollment rates despite over 20% black populations? No concern at all for these people?

    The gay website thing is a clear red carpet the SCOTUS is sending more of these anti-LGBT cases, they'll take them up then they'll remove them.

    You can feel you don't see it happening but man I was beating this drum about the SCOTUS and abortion for years before they did it because I know how badly the right wants these things. The Christian right BADLY wants to take away LGBT rights. When they do, you'll be on that side.
     
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    Conservatives love Jim Crow type of behavior.
     
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    Lol. Liar liar pants on fire
     
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    Republicans have long voiced their concerns about the Court engaging in legislating from the bench. It is now evident that the current Court is employing precisely such a practice through their utilization of the "major question" doctrine. This doctrine empowers them to assess whether an issue is "major" or not, and if deemed as such, to strike it down. If it's not "major", it can stands. There is no Constitutional basis supporting this judgment by the Court. This doctrine is a self-fashioned jurisprudence by the Court, allowing them to engage in legislative decision-making from the bench.

    https://www.scotusblog.com/2023/06/...-down-biden-student-loan-forgiveness-program/

    Kagan also took aim at the court’s invocation of the major questions doctrine, arguing that “the rules of the game change when Congress enacts broad delegations allowing agencies to take substantial regulatory measures.” The result, she wrote, is that the court substituted its own policy judgment for that of Congress and the executive branch, deciding “that some 40 million Americans will not receive the benefits the plan provides, because (so says the Court) that assistance is too ‘significant.’”
     

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