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    This guy's videos are top notch, professional and always worth watching.
     
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    I suppose we're leaking this to force Putin to purge some of his own generals?
     
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    Guess Putin reads the NY Times.

     
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    He was actually sidelined a few months ago. Surovkin is very popular among Russian soldiers who were in Syria. Nickname "General Armegedon" for his indiscriminate use of overwhelming force. Probably more just to make Russians think about "chosing a side" and generally fostering discord.
     
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    Putin, Prigozhin, Surovkin.. All of these guys are war criminals. Even if Putin is overthrown I don't things will get better if one of these guys takes over.
     
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    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023...ted-following-wagner-mutiny-mt-russian-a81685

    Russian General Sergei Surovikin has been arrested, The Moscow Times' Russian service reported Wednesday, citing two sources close to the Defense Ministry who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    The Defense Ministry has yet to comment on the alleged arrest of Surovikin, who has not been seen in public since Saturday, when Wagner Group chief Yevgeny Prigozhin launched an armed rebellion against Russia's military leadership.

    "The situation with him was not 'OK.' For the authorities. I can't say anything more," one of the sources said.

    According to the second source, the arrest was carried out "in the context of Prigozhin."

    "Apparently, he [Surovikin] chose Prigozhin's side during the uprising, and they've gotten him by the balls," the source said.

    When asked about the general's current whereabouts, the source replied: "We are not even commenting on this information through our internal channels."

    Earlier Wednesday, pro-war military blogger Vladimir Romanov said Surovikin was detained Sunday, the day after Prigozhin's aborted mutiny.

    Romanov claimed that Surovikin is now being held in Moscow's Lefortovo detention center.

    Alexei Venediktov, editor-in-chief of the shuttered Ekho Moskvy radio station, wrote on Telegram that Surovikin has not been in contact with his family for three days and that his guards are not responsive.

    The New York Times reported Tuesday, citing unnamed U.S. officials, that Surovikin had prior knowledge of Prigozhin's plan to instigate a rebellion against Russia's military leadership.

    Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on Wednesday dismissed the report as “speculation” and “gossip,” suggesting that Putin had not given in to Prigozhin’s demands for an imminent reshuffle of the Russian military's top brass.

    Wagner’s uprising set off Russia's most serious security crisis in decades before Prigozhin agreed to stand down Saturday night in exchange for immunity in exile, as part of a deal brokered by Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko.

    Surovikin commanded Russia’s forces in Ukraine for three months between October 2022 and January 2023 until he was replaced by Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov.
     
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    Did Putin trap Prigozian's family in some dungeon for him to rat out his fellow coup generals?

    The fallout looks bigly ugly
     
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    If you were involved in this mutiny and you’re still in Russia or even the same content after this you know it’s just a matter of time before you’re scooped up or take a walk out of a high window.
     
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    would’ve hit
     
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    Sacrificial lamb for Putin, hell never see the light of day again, I have a feeling all the players will start having "accidents" very soon, those who oppose Putin tend to fall out of windows or get poisoned so ........this is far from over
     
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    It's a friggin epidemic over there.....WTF, don't go near a window!!!!! Whats next????

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    They'd already crossed the Rubicon and supposedly tanks had a wide open touchdown to Moscow.

    You don't just stop at the ten yard line with those stakes you mentioned unless Putin had something unshakable over fat Prig.
     
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    It's called a nuke.
     
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    Oh silly Russians.
     

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