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  1. Os Trigonum

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    just like the DOJ has Hunter on record admitting that Joe is sitting next to him while extorting a Chinese official?
     
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-bi...gun-charge-whistleblower-bribery-fbi-6ffa15e0

    Joe Biden’s ‘Malarkey’ Defense of Hunter
    Amid new evidence, the president reprises his strategy from 2020.
    By William McGurn
    June 26, 2023 at 6:21 pm ET

    Just when Joe Biden thought the Hunter business was behind him, new evidence is pulling him back in. This time it won’t be as easy to suppress as in 2020.

    House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer has forced into public the existence of a Federal Bureau of Investigation FD-1023 form detailing an informant’s claim that a Burisma executive paid $5 million each in bribes to then-Vice President Biden and his son. After the bureau begrudgingly let a few members of Congress look at the document, Sen. Chuck Grassley revealed the FBI had redacted the part about the executive saying he had 17 audio recordings of conversations with Joe and Hunter Biden.

    The latest development came Thursday, courtesy of the House Ways and Means Committee. Republicans on the committee released testimony from two Internal Revenue Service “whistleblowers” accusing the Justice Department of interfering in their investigation with the aim of protecting Hunter Biden. The testimony included a July 30, 2017, WhatsApp text allegedly showing Hunter Biden threatening a Chinese business partner who hadn’t fulfilled some unnamed “commitment.” “I am sitting here with my father,” the note says. All this news comes on the heels of a plea agreement with the Justice Department that deals only with Hunter’s taxes and a gun charge.

    Team Biden has responded by going back to the script that worked so well in 2020, talking about how the president loves his son and attributing anything embarrassing to Hunter’s crack-cocaine addiction. “It’s a bunch of malarkey,” the president said earlier this month to a question about bribery. On Monday he tersely answered “no” when asked if the new evidence proves he hadn’t been truthful about his knowledge of Hunter’s business deals.

    Democrats say these are unsubstantiated accusations from Republicans. That’s rich, given that what Mr. Comer wants to know is whether the FBI and Justice made an honest effort to substantiate the information about the Bidens. Attorney General Merrick Garland has been careful not to address specifics. On Friday he painted criticisms of his department as a threat to democracy.

    At the White House, meanwhile, it was déjà vu all over again. John Kirby, the National Security Council coordinator for strategic communications, refused to answer whether the WhatsApp message undermined the president’s repeated claims of ignorance about Hunter’s foreign business dealings. Mr. Kirby declared, “I am not going to address this issue from this podium”—and walked off.

    White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre picked up the ball, making clear that if reporters asked “anything related to—to Hunter, I’m just not going to respond to it from here.”

    Whatever this is, it isn’t a winning strategy for 2024. Especially with Republican subpoenas still coming. On Sunday, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy raised the possibility of impeaching Mr. Garland over this.

    Remember, the whistleblowers are all testifying under pain of a perjury charge if they lie, and their allegations are relatively easy to prove or disprove. IRS career investigator Gary Shapley Jr. testified about a 2022 meeting of prosecutors and FBI and IRS agents he found shocking. He says U.S. Attorney David Weiss—who was overseeing the Hunter Biden investigation—told them three things.

    First, that Mr. Weiss wasn’t the “deciding official” when it came to bringing charges. Second, that Matthew Graves, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, wouldn’t allow him to bring charges against Hunter there. And third, that he had asked for special-counsel status and his request was denied.

    This testimony contradicts Mr. Garland’s claim that Mr. Weiss had full authority to charge what and where he wanted. It also contradicts Mr. Weiss’s own claim in a letter to the House Judiciary Committee that he was the “ultimate authority.” But all of it can easily be cleared up by having those allegedly at the meeting, including Mr. Weiss, testify under oath.

    Other allegations also deserve answers under oath. Did Assistant U.S. Attorney Lesley Wolf really call Hunter Biden’s defense counsel about a Northern Virginia storage unit, ruining investigators’ plans for a search? And why did she allegedly tell agents interviewing Hunter business associate Rob Walker not to ask about “dad” or “the big guy”?

    Ultimately, Hunter Biden will himself be called to testify before the House. Maybe he’ll refuse to say anything. That may be best for him. But for his president father, running for re-election, having his son come across like Vito Genovese taking the Fifth dozens of times before questions about shell companies and payments to himself and his dad isn’t a great look.

    When Hunter Biden agreed to his plea deal last week, his lawyer said he did so with the understanding the investigation was resolved. Perhaps that part is. But for Joe Biden, Merrick Garland and FBI Director Christopher Wray, it’s only just begun.

    Appeared in the June 27, 2023, print edition as 'Joe Biden’s ‘Malarkey’ Defense'.



     
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    How in the world are you a professor and don't know the difference between first hand account and 2nd hand account. The doj has 20+ witness that will flip on turn trump that saw him first hand show evidence to others.

    Your evidence is a 1 witness text message from a drug addict ? Man you one dumb person
     
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    the WhatsApp message is first hand.

    unless Trump was lying, which he has been known to do, and bluffing by waving a handful of blank sheets of paper around

    and you're saying Trump is telling the truth for the first time in his life?

    I'm not the story here
     
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    From a drug addict that just so happens to come from Biden's nut sack.... Its his son stupid, its not a whistleblower... Its not a disgruntled employee, its not the cleaning lady or a p*rn actress.... Its his son, how dumb can you be?
     
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    You really are this deep in the qnon hole aren't you. Difference between you bending over backwards for trump is your braindead conspiracies don't hold water. Trump wasn't "lying" about waiving the docs cuz they have cctn security footage of trump at the property and other witness put up there.

    It's truly fascinating watching you compare trump admitting on tape to committing a crime to a unverified text.

    Politics really does break people's brains. I'm sorry but you're just a brainwashed troll at this point.
     
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    you bumped the thread
     
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    You are this dumb aren't you. Hunter tried selling his dad's name for influence. There's zero evidence that Joe ever sold any influence for $$. Sending a text to solicit money isn't a felony.

    Waiving classified docs and military battle plans when you're a private citizen is a crime.

    No matter how much mental gymnastics you do in your head it doesn't change facts on the ground
     
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    hey, they've even got verified Trump orange juice commercials

     
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    Trump has also ranked Star Wars

     
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    You understand that they have security footage of trump at the properties during the time of the allegations. They have flight logs, secret service testimony and 25+ witness that saw trump with classified docs. The amount of evidence they have according to the indictment it long.

    This is secondary evidence that includes trumps audio recording of him committing crimes and have video surveillance of him having docs on him.

    Comparing that to a text message Hunter sent in exchange for a cushy job and $$ just shows how utterly desperate and pathetic you've become. You're effin insane
     
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    verified hilarity
     
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    The thing I don't understand about all you right wing trolls is biden has spent 4 trillion dollars as POTUS and has begun over 33000 infrastructure projects. If biden is so corrupt how the **** can't you guys find any fraud in his current administration?

    Hes given out trillions of dollars in infrastructure projects yet Republicans can't find one corrupt deal or project ?

    Criminals don't magically stop committing crimes. They keep doing it. There's zero evidence of corruption in bidens bidding process for $$$
     
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    related

     
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    Lol, is this verified?
     
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    first hand
     
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    Verified Trump diss track

     
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    The doj has an audio of trump admitting he's showing them classified docs and now he claims the only people accusing him of doing wrong is fake news lol. And you idiots talk about hunter biden conspiracies @Salvy these braindead talking points only work with MAGA.

    It's so fascinating watching a modern day cult
     
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    mainstream, New York Times coverage

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/27/us/politics/irs-official-justice-dept-hunter-biden.html

    Competing Accounts of Justice Dept.’s Handling of Hunter Biden Case
    An I.R.S. investigator’s testimony describing strains over the inquiry into President Biden’s son is at odds with the version laid out by Attorney General Merrick Garland.
    By Glenn Thrush and Michael S. Schmidt
    June 27, 2023, 5:19 p.m. ET

    At a Senate hearing in March, Senator Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa, spent seven minutes grilling Attorney General Merrick B. Garland about the Hunter Biden investigation, reading a series of unusually specific queries from a paper in his hands.

    Did David C. Weiss, the Trump-appointed U.S. attorney in Delaware kept on under Mr. Garland to continue overseeing the inquiry, have full authority to bring charges against President Biden’s son in California and Washington if he wanted to? Had Mr. Weiss ever asked to be made a special counsel? Was the investigation truly insulated from political considerations?

    That encounter has taken on new significance after House Republicans released testimony last week from a senior Internal Revenue Service investigator on the case that appeared to contradict Mr. Garland’s assurances to Mr. Grassley and others that Mr. Weiss had all the freedom and authority he needed to pursue the case as he saw fit.

    The I.R.S. official, Gary Shapley, oversaw the agency’s role in the investigation of Mr. Biden’s taxes and says his criticism of the Justice Department led to him being denied a promotion. He told the House Ways and Means Committee that Mr. Weiss had been rebuffed by top federal prosecutors in Los Angeles and Washington when he had raised the prospect of pursuing charges against the president’s son in those jurisdictions.

    Mr. Shapley, testifying under what Republicans say are whistle-blower protections, also said that he had witnessed Mr. Weiss saying last year that he would not be the “deciding official” regarding whether to prosecute Mr. Biden, and that Mr. Weiss had been turned down when he sought special counsel status, which would have allowed him greater flexibility in handling the case.

    In providing accounts of internal discussions at odds with Mr. Garland’s testimony, Mr. Shapley gave Republicans a fresh opening to raise questions about the case and to cast doubt on the Justice Department’s repeated statements that Mr. Weiss had complete control of the investigation with no political interference.

    But it remains unclear how much of the difference in the accounts reflects possible factors like miscommunication, clashing substantive judgments among agencies over how best to pursue a prosecution, or personal enmity among officials working on a high-pressure, high-profile case. Investigators like Mr. Shapley whose job it is to uncover evidence often have different perspectives from prosecutors who have to take into account how to treat defendants fairly and present cases to juries.

    Republican efforts to link Hunter Biden’s problems to his father have often come up short, and Mr. Garland, a former federal appeals court judge, has taken pains to distance himself from core decision-making in the politically polarizing cases that have landed on his desk. Still, Republican leaders now see Mr. Garland as a potentially vulnerable figure as they look for ways to undercut the president heading into the 2024 campaign.

    “If it comes true what the I.R.S. whistle-blower is saying, we’re going to start impeachment inquiries on the attorney general,” Speaker Kevin McCarthy told Fox News on Monday.

    Mr. Garland, addressing reporters on Friday, forcefully denied Mr. Shapley’s claims. Mr. Weiss said in a letter to Congress this month that he had not been constrained in pursuing the investigation. Mr. Weiss said in the letter, dated June 7, that he had been “granted ultimate authority over this matter, including responsibility for deciding where, when and whether to file charges.” He has yet to face more specific questions from House Republicans in the wake of Mr. Shapley’s testimony.

    White House officials dismissed Mr. McCarthy’s impeachment threat as a “distraction.” And Hunter Biden’s lawyers have told the Justice Department that Mr. Shapley has broken federal laws that keep grand jury material secret. Mr. Shapley’s lawyer, Mark D. Lytle, said his client “has legally protected rights to blow the whistle.”

    “There are so many unanswered questions here that I think the only solution is having Garland or Weiss, or both, testify before Congress or have a long press conference where they answer everything that’s being thrown at them,” said John P. Fishwick Jr., who served as U.S. attorney for the Western District of Virginia from 2015 to 2017.

    “Is this just a disgruntled guy who didn’t get his way, as happens in every investigation?” he added, referring to Mr. Shapley. “Or is there something else going on?”

    Mr. Weiss announced this month that Mr. Biden had agreed to plead guilty to two misdemeanor charges of having failed to file his 2017 and 2018 taxes on time. Mr. Weiss also charged Mr. Biden in connection with his purchase of a handgun in 2018 but said he would not prosecute the charge under a two-year pretrial diversion program.

    The Hunter Biden investigation was initiated by the Trump Justice Department in 2018 and eventually handed to Mr. Weiss, a Republican whose reputation for nonpartisanship had earned him the support of Delaware’s two Democratic senators during his confirmation a few months earlier.

    Mr. Weiss was, according to the committee’s transcripts, determined to keep the inquiry under wraps as long as possible, thanking his team for keeping the investigation secret in a strategy session shortly after the 2020 election.

    After President Biden was elected, the department’s interim leadership kept Mr. Weiss in place and in charge of the inquiry. Mr. Garland, after being confirmed, continued that arrangement, and was eager to avoid any suggestion of political meddling, according to people in his orbit.

    But if Mr. Garland was content with how the politically explosive case was being handled, Mr. Shapley, a 14-year I.R.S. employee, was stewing in the shadows.

    He recounted in his testimony that he had been arguing in meetings with Mr. Weiss and other prosecutors to aggressively pursue charges against Mr. Biden stemming from his failure to pay taxes in 2014 and 2015, two years not covered under Mr. Biden’s agreement to plead guilty on the misdemeanor tax charges. During those years, Mr. Biden was earning income from work for a Ukraine-based energy company and Chinese clients that Mr. Shapley suggested was being channeled through entities that had a presence in Washington and the Los Angeles area.

    It is not clear if Mr. Weiss was convinced those strands of the investigation should be prosecuted or was simply making sure all potential charges were pursued thoroughly. But in mid-2022, Mr. Weiss reached out to the top federal prosecutor in Washington, Matthew Graves, to ask his office to pursue charges and was rebuffed, according to Mr. Shapley’s testimony.

    A similar request to prosecutors in the Central District of California, which includes Los Angeles, was also rejected, Mr. Shapley testified. A second former I.R.S. official, who has not been identified, told House Republicans the same story. That episode was confirmed independently to The New York Times by a person with knowledge of the situation.

    While Mr. Weiss had the authority to pursue leads that led to jurisdictions other than his own in Delaware, the department’s practices dictated that he secure the approval and cooperation of the U.S. attorneys in those districts before proceeding.

    If Mr. Weiss wanted to move ahead without their approval, he could have brought the issue to Mr. Garland’s attention, and the attorney general could then appoint him “special attorney,” which would allow him to bypass the standard chain of command. There is no indication that Mr. Weiss appealed for help from Mr. Garland or his top deputies — or that he even communicated about the case with anyone in leadership beyond the department’s top career official at headquarters.

    When Mr. Grassley, at the hearing in March, pressed Mr. Garland on that point — without referring explicitly to Mr. Shapley’s claim, which would not become public for months, but tracking closely what Mr. Shapley would tell the Ways and Means Committee — the attorney general said he would “assure” that Mr. Weiss would be able to bring charges outside Delaware if that was his wish. At a news conference after the transcript was released, Mr. Garland repeated that message.
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    conclusion

    As the investigation ground on, Mr. Shapley had grown disenchanted with the lack of progress in the investigation, and by his account was so upset over the conduct of the Justice Department he found it hard to sleep.

    He testified that Mr. Weiss, despite his public statements to the contrary, was also unhappy, and that he complained about being handcuffed by higher-ups in the department.

    Things came to a head during a meeting among investigators on Oct. 7, when Mr. Weiss made an unexpected admission to him in the presence of several other federal law enforcement officials, according to Mr. Shapley’s account.

    “He surprised us by telling us on the charges, quote: ‘I’m not the deciding official on whether charges are filed,’” said Mr. Shapley, a longtime Republican who has said he is motivated by the evenhanded application of justice, not politics.

    “To add to the surprise, U.S. Attorney Weiss stated that he subsequently asked for special counsel authority from Main D.O.J. at that time and was denied that authority,” he added.

    Mr. Weiss, he said, was then told “to follow D.O.J.’s process.”

    Mr. Shapley did not say if Mr. Weiss told him who had turned down his request to appoint a special counsel, a decision that can only be made by an attorney general under department regulations.

    After Mr. Garland last week denied Mr. Shapley’s account, Mr. Shapley’s lawyer, Mr. Lytle, issued a statement naming six F.B.I. and I.R.S. agents who he said witnessed the exchange, which Mr. Shapley also recorded in a contemporaneous email.

    Later, Mr. Shapley blamed Mr. Weiss, without evidence, for helping to kill a promotion he had hoped to get, by criticizing him to his superiors at the I.R.S.

    “I think it tainted me,” he told the Ways and Means Committee. “I think that they retaliated against me because of that. There’s really no other explanation for it.”

    A spokeswoman for Mr. Weiss did not return a request for comment. In his June 7 letter to Representative Jim Jordan, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, he wrote that he had “ultimate authority” over every aspect of the investigation, which seemed to contradict Mr. Shapley’s claim that he had said he was not the deciding official in the case. (On Monday, Mr. Jordan sent a letter asking Mr. Weiss to clarify what “ultimate authority” means.)

    In a short news release last week setting out the terms of the deal with Mr. Biden, Mr. Weiss added without explanation: “The investigation is ongoing.” It is unclear whether that phrase was just Justice Department boilerplate, a hint about the possibility of more charges arising from the inquiry or a shield against demands for documents and testimony about the Biden case from Congress.

    Mr. Garland, who often sidesteps requests for comment on ongoing investigations, has been uncharacteristically blunt in refuting Mr. Shapley’s testimony.

    “Mr. Weiss never made that request,” Mr. Garland told reporters last Friday, referring to whether Mr. Weiss had sought special counsel status.

    Under the special counsel regulation, Mr. Weiss would have been required to inform Mr. Garland about any major developments in the investigation, including his request to bring charges in California and Washington. Mr. Garland, in turn, would have to inform Congress in writing if he decided to overrule any major investigative decision, like charging Mr. Biden.

    “If you provided the Delaware U.S. attorney with special counsel authority, isn’t it true that he would not need permission from another U.S. attorney to bring charges?” asked Mr. Grassley, a longtime chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, in March.

    “It’s a kind of a complicated question,” replied Mr. Garland.

    He then suggested it was also an irrelevant one, arguing that Mr. Weiss “already” possessed the same authority under both scenarios.

    Mr. Grassley did not appear to be convinced.

    Adam Goldman and Luke Broadwater contributed reporting.

     

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