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What it means to be “woke”

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by durvasa, Apr 19, 2022.

  1. Amiga

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    got it, my point was to not blame the unfortunate event on startup culture
     
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    Either way this is a pretty sad desperate argument. It's not like old white guys haven't made design mistakes that led to disasters. In fact the wreck they were visiting was designed by older white guys who assured people it would be unsinkable.
     
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  3. Amiga

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    As usual, it's wokism first and foremost, reaffirming how wokeness is everywhere in our culture. LOL.

    Honestly, the entire debate on safety for tourism in a pretty dangerous environment is 1000x more interesting than this silly argument about wokism. I would care more about it if it impacted more people. These very rich people wanting to put their lives in harm's way, it's sad when they are harmed, but I really don't care. Self-correction might be the next step (Billionaires aren't just going anywhere now without some real assurance of safety), and that's fine. Evolution.I don't think the US government needs to play a role just yet, except it should charge these companies for any effort to help them deal with a disaster.
     
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    I get there's a lot of schaudenfraude about billionaires getting their comeuppance but at it's base this is still a human tragedy.

    I brought this up in the Hangout Random Disaster Thread but we are likely to see more tourism going to extreme environments. As such there's going to be more likelihood of cutting corners on safety. It won't surprise me if in the next 10 years there is a similar disaster regarding a private space flight company. Given that the risk is largely socialized with the US and Canadian governments expending a lot of money and resources in the search for the sub, I think there is a need for governments to step in and provide regulation and licensure. Or at the minimum some massive insurance requirements so in the case of a disaster it's not up to taxpayers to bear the cost of rescue and recovery.
     
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    Purity Laws I learned from Twitter:

    Hiring 100% white guys makes everything 100% safe and right.

    90% white guys + 10% shudders Wokies = Broke broke broke!
     
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    Exactly this. It's about not taking warnings seriously. Lack of regulations, etc.
     
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    Damn, damn damn!

    If only society would allow 50 year old white males to save us all, we'd be great!

    They've been in charge forever and we never had a great single problem until people that aren't 50 year old white males were allowed to have a place at the table.
     
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    Hey I'm a 50 year old white guy and I don't have time to save EVERYONE. I'm too busy being woke and hating on the party that has the support of the Neo-nazis and KKK. Let some other middle aged white guy do all the saving.
     
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    Wokism = Eschewing safety regulations.

    The corporate masters are shrewd playing on weak minded folks.
     
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    @Salvy @Os Trigonum @rocketsjudoka

    if I was starting a Mexican restaurant, I’ll hire a 50 year old Mexican lady over a 25 year old who worked at Olive Garden

    but that’s just me, I’ll hire Mrs Ninfa over pronoun Pat or latinX Larry

    I mean fat whiteys in Austin just think Tostitos and cheese whiz are nachos

    @txtony
    @Xerobull
    @Jontro
     
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    This is what happens when you give a platform to a tiny amount of emotionally unstable people, they are pretty much grown children who cannot live without receiving attention. They based their platform on being victims, they find comfort in people treating them differently and babying them on tv and in movies and businesses nationwide. Then when real adults start seeing the negative outcome out of mentally deranged adult children they stop buying products, watching movies and supporting anything woke. Now the wokies can't handle not being the center of attention so they go out and do $hit like this. These people clearly never got a NO from their parents, well yeah... Their parents are liberals and it all makes sense....Stop catering to these people, nothing good can come of it... Nothing good has come to Disney or Bud Light, nothing good has come to this country and nothing will.... Stop with this clown baby $hit, that way we can get back to our normal lives and these people have a shot at becoming decent human beings who learned a valuable lesson although late in life.....
     
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    We've gotten to the point that being open minded and tolerant of people is being "woke"
     
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    The people that give them the most attention are people like you. You can’t get enough of this stuff.
     
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    The problem with Starbucks and Target, or Budweiser is these companies want to haphazardly support the LGBTIDGAF without realizing the implications - the video above highlights the dangers that if you don’t go all the way with the never ending nonstop “demands” then you’re going to get the condemnation …. .. I’m so glad with my small business -I’m in control- I’m the boss- I dictate the terms, the conditions and the pricing and I can hire and fire any employee along the way - This is how I grow the business and remain profitable - It’s quite simple, don’t let politics get involved in business and at this point “pride” is a obvious politics charade
     
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    Just going to point out Target was still a sponsor of Twin Cities Pride this year ans they have been for several years. Also the Target store in Lake street, the one that was looted during George Floyd riots, has been selling Pride Merchandise.
     
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    You as a small business owner have the right to advertise or sponsor as you want. My business isn’t a sponsor of Pride either and we don’t have PRIDE themed products. Although PRIDE themed architectural details might be an untapped market.

    Target, Delta, Anheuser Busch aren’t being forced into sponsoring Pride. 10 years ago they wanted nothing to do with Pride. They do so because they realized that Gay people spend money and so do supporters of LGBT.

    I’ll repeat it again. Only one color matters. Green and not a rainbow.

    This is why even Fox News is celebrating Pride.
     
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    So you’re saying nobody wants to loot those tuck in trans swimsuits ?
     
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    The other thing @ROXRAN doesn't understand is that Target, Delta, and Anheuser Busch are not small business, but companies with 1,000's of employees. The owners aren't the ones making these decisions. It could be the merchandiser of a particular store, or the HR department in response to gay employees, or the marketing agency of the brand in which case Bud Light's own VP of marketing might not be aware that one of the can's of the 100's of influencers was transgender.

    Company's can't anticipate every controversy because anticipating human behavior is impossible. It's also impossible to ask companies to stay on the sidelines of culture because companies are made up of people who are heavily influenced in culture. Marketing is in part tapping into the current cultural state of your audience. They will always be missteps, there will always be situations where a brand's values creates conflict with an audience.

    It's not easy to navigate.
     

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