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Justice Alito preemptive OpEd on his Luxury Trip with Billionaire

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  1. Xerobull

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    That’s true but the people who are in place in congress aren’t doing anything about it. Systemic.
     
  2. Andre0087

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    I doubt it'll get better...I don't mind fighting for my rights but the wealthy has ****ed us over without lube for too long...it is what it is at this point.
     
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    probably the best thing I've read on the Alito issue

    Alito Defending Alito

    https://blog.simplejustice.us/2023/06/23/alito-defending-alito/

    excerpt:

    Was it wrong for Alito to bypass the usual Supreme Court spokeswoman and lay his cards on the friendly table of the Wall Street Journal? No, not at all. His integrity was being challenged and he had every right to defend himself, for his own sake if not for the sake of his life tenure. He doesn’t need the spokeswoman’s permission, and why would he turn to an unfriendly media outlet to get his op-ed out there?

    But what was, and remains, wrong is that Supreme Court justices, and not just Alito and Thomas, but pretty much all of them, need to be above reproach if they want their singularly insulated decisions to be accepted by the public as honestly derived, even if unpopular. When they’re suddenly befriended by billionaires bearing gifts, can they not appreciate the stench of that hospitality? It’s not too much to ask of Supreme Court justices to not take stuff from random rich guys. And Singer did not become Alito’s pal because Sam is such a great guy to hang around with. Sure, Alito is allowed to defend himself in an op-ed in the WSJ, but that doesn’t mean he still wasn’t wrong.
    more at the link
     
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  4. Amiga

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    He can defend himself but he has no defense. Sounds about right :).
     
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    [Politico] ‘Scurrilous attacks': DeSantis amps up defense of Justices Alito and Thomas amid scrutiny over donor gifts

     
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    Singer's hedge fund came before the court at least 10 times since the trip, including a 2014 case in which Alito voted with the 7-1 majority in favor of Singer's hedge fund
    in its case against Argentina, leading to a $2.4 billion payout for the fund.
     
  8. mdrowe00

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    ...United citizens are hard to beat.

    ...or outspend...
    ...or prosecute...
    ...or overrule...;)
     
  9. Amiga

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    Cool to see the Behind the Scenes stuff. :D See link for full article.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/behind-scenes-alito-wall-street-journal-prebuttal-editorial

    Behind the Scenes of Justice Alito’s Unprecedented Wall Street Journal Pre-buttal
    The Journal editorial page accused ProPublica of misleading readers in a story that hadn’t yet been published.

    Around midday on Friday, June 16, ProPublica reporters Justin Elliott and Josh Kaplan sent an email to Patricia McCabe, the Supreme Court’s spokesperson, with questions for Justice Samuel Alito about a forthcoming story on his fishing trip to Alaska with a hedge fund billionaire.

    We set a deadline of the following Tuesday at noon for a response.

    Fifteen minutes later, McCabe called the reporters. It was an unusual moment in our dealings with the high court’s press office, the first time any of its public information officers had spoken directly with the ProPublica journalists in the many months we have spent looking into the justices’ ethics and conduct. When we sent detailed questions to the court for our stories on Justice Clarence Thomas, McCabe responded with an email that said they had been passed on to the justice. There was no further word from her before those stories appeared, not even a statement that Thomas would have no comment.

    The conversation about Alito was brisk and professional. McCabe said she had noticed a formatting issue with an email, and the reporters agreed to resend the 18 questions in a Word document. Kaplan and Elliott told McCabe they understood that this was a busy time at the court and that they were willing to extend the deadline if Alito needed more time.

    Monday was a federal holiday, Juneteenth. On Tuesday, McCabe called the reporters to tell them Alito would not respond to our requests for comment but said we should not write that he declined to comment. (In the story, we wrote that she told us he “would not be commenting.”)

    She asked when the story was likely to be published. Certainly not today, the reporters replied. Perhaps as soon as Wednesday.

    Six hours later, The Wall Street Journal editorial page posted an essay by Alito in which he used our questions to guess at the points in our unpublished story and rebut them in advance. His piece, headlined “Justice Samuel Alito: ProPublica Misleads Readers,” was hard to follow for anyone outside ProPublica since it shot down allegations (notably the purported consumption of expensive wine) that had not yet been made.

    In the hours after Alito’s response appeared, editors and reporters worked quickly to complete work on our investigative story. We did additional reporting to put Alito’s claims in context. The justice wrote in the Journal, “My recollection is that I have spoken to Mr. Singer on no more than a handful of occasions,” and that none of those conversations involved “any case or issue before the Court.” He said he did not know of Singer’s involvement in a case about a long-standing dispute involving Argentina because the fund that was a party to the suit was called NML Capital and the billionaire’s name did not appear in Supreme Court briefs.

    Alex Mierjeski, another reporter on the team, quickly pulled together a long list of prominent stories from the Journal, The New York Times and The Financial Timesthat identified Singer as the head of the hedge fund seeking to earn handsome profits by suing Argentina in U.S. courts. (The Supreme Court, with Alito joining the 7-1 majority, backed Singer’s arguments on a key legal issue, and Argentina ultimately paid the hedge fund $2.4 billion to settle the dispute.)

    It does not appear that the editors at the Journal made much of an effort to fact-check Alito’s assertions.


    ...

    The Journal’s editorial page is entirely separate from its newsroom. Journalists were nonetheless sharply critical of the decision to help the subject of another news organization’s investigation “pre-but” the findings.

    “This is a terrible look for ⁦@WSJ,” tweeted John Carreyrou, a former investigative reporter at the Journal whose award-winning articles on Theranos lead to the indictment and criminal conviction of its founder, Elizabeth Holmes. “Let’s see how it feels when another news organization front runs a sensitive story it’s working on with a preemptive comment from the story subject.”

    Bill Grueskin, a former senior editor at the Journal and a professor of journalism at Columbia, told the Times that “Justice Alito could have issued this as a statement on the SCOTUS website. But the fact that he chose The Journal — and that the editorial page was willing to serve as his loyal factotum — says a great deal about the relationship between the two parties.”

    Even Fox News got in the game. “Alito must be congratulating himself on his preemptive strike, but given that the nonprofit news agency sent him questions last week, was that really fair? And should the Journal, which has criticized ProPublica as a left-wing outfit, have played along with this? The paper included an editor’s note that ProPublica had sent the justice the questions, but did not mention that its story had not yet run,” the cable news outfit’s media watcher Howard Kurtz wrote.

    There are lessons for ProPublica in this experience. Our reporters are likely to be a bit more skeptical when a spokesperson asks about the timing of a story’s publication.

    But one thing is not changing. Regardless of the consequences, we will continue to give everyone mentioned in our stories a chance to respond before publication to what we’re planning to say about them.

    Our practice, known internally as “no surprises,” is a matter of both accuracy and fairness. As editors, we have seen numerous instances over the years in which responses to our detailed questions have changed stories. Some have been substantially rewritten and rethought in light of the new information provided by subjects of stories. On rare occasions, we’ve killed stories after learning new facts.

    We leave it to the PR professionals to assess whether pre-buttals are an effective strategy. Alito’s assertion that the private flight to Alaska was of no value because the seat was empty anyway became the subject of considerable online amusement.

    And the readership of our story has been robust: 2 million page views and counting. It’s possible that Alito has won the argument with the audience he cares the most about. But it seems equally plausible that he drew even more attention to the very story he was trying to knock down.


    Alito’s behavior underscores that the “no surprises” approach involves taking a risk, allowing subjects to “spit in our soup,” as Paul Steiger, the former Journal editor who founded ProPublica, liked to say.

    Nevertheless, following our practice, we asked the Journal editorial page, Alito and McCabe for comment before this column appeared. We did not immediately hear back from them.


     
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    When is the next basketball game? As long as we sports and entertainment to keep us occupied who cares.
     
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    Whataboutism... oops.

     
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    Meanwhile...

     
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    The more reporters look into these types of issues the more will come out, thomas was just the beginning. SCOTUS and maga......grifters with no ethics
     
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    Alito demands perpetual public and professional affirmation — a safe space, if you will, where he is protected from micro-aggressions, bathed in praise and consistently depicted as reasonable and judicious regardless of whether he actually is. And when his reception falls short of that, he lashes out at his critics no matter who they are.


    Recall his remarkable performance back in 2010 at President Obama’s State of the Union address. After Obama criticized the court’s Citizens United decision striking down long-standing restrictions on campaign contributions, the television cameras panned over to the justices, who typically remain impassive at such political events. But not Alito: As his colleagues sat silently, the cameras caught him going rogue, conspicuously shaking his head and mouthing the words, “Not true.”

    The criticism of that episode didn’t dim Alito’s ardor for insisting that other public officials must not question him. In a 2020 speech before the Federalist Society, he characterized an amicus brief filed by several U.S. senators as “bullying” the court.

    The justice has also used his considerable platform to berate private citizens. In the same speech, he singled out a Harvard law professor who had written a blog post proclaiming that despite conservative domination of the federal courts, progressives had secured decisive victories on LGBTQ+ equality and other issues. Apparently triggered by the liberal scholar’s impudence, Alito fired back, warning ominously, “It’s not dark yet, but it’s getting there.”

    this man who has penned fiery dissents in decisions securing equal rights for LGBTQ+ people and other minority groups is so thin-skinned that he can’t brook a hint of dissent directed at him.

    The conservative legal movement long defined itself in opposition to liberal judicial “imperialism.” And yet it is Justice Alito, a prominent face of that project, who insists on the prerogatives of an emperor-king, among them unstinting general adulation and complete insulation from critique.

    Some of the Supreme Court justices (Thomas, Alito, etc.) seem to be letting the term “supreme” go to their heads
     
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    Sounds like something Texas Republicans would do.
     
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    So a USSC Justice seems to have forgotten about "Separation of Powers"

    Unfortunately practically he might be right. It's going to be more likely that we add Justices to the court than we impeach and remove them.
     
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    This mother****** sounds like he feels he IS above the law. This is what happens when you have a dishonest person who has no worries about being impeached, for all intensive purposes they are above the law because the gop won't do anything, if they do, they would have to look at how trump and the rest of them are grifters.....you can't out them because they would have to out themselves.
     

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