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[Player Assessment] Kevin Porter Jr.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dankstronaut, Mar 18, 2023.

  1. hlmbasketball

    hlmbasketball Member

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    I'm curious, who are the options in house?


    If the coaches and management has gotten over it, why can't you?
     
  2. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    I doubt anyone who isn't a KPJ stan will look at our exchange and come to that conclusion :)
     
  3. Verbal Christ

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    Aw man you name called me. Now I should go on a tirade, but I wont since I dont care and dont need to type out a paragraph saying I dont care! LOL
     
  4. chenjy9

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    Aww, too bad. Let's see how long before your next explosion! :D
     
  5. Verbal Christ

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    Have you seen the Giuliani outburst when he was compared to Christopher Steele on live TV? That will be childs play compared to the untethered rage I will emit when you guys are mean to KPJ - so much so that I might even report your posts! :rolleyes:
     
  6. hlmbasketball

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    If you been a NBA Fan since you were 7yrs old, surely you should have heard the phrase "Young players taken time to develop"?

    Surely, you heard of players like;

    Chauncey Billups who played PG in college, was a Top 10 draft pick but struggled for years, before he became a top PG in the league.

    Shaun Livingston, who played PG in high school, was a Top 10 pick but struggled initially, got hurt, joined the Warriors and went on to win a ring.

    Kenny Smith, who played PG in college, was a Top 10 draft pick, struggled in Sacramento, joined the Rockets and later won two rings.

    Marcus Smart, who played SG in college, was a Top 10 draft pick and moved to PG in the NBA and is just now establishing himself.


    Those are just a few examples but there are numerous stories of players who played PG in college came into the NBA, struggled and preservered.
     
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    FVV or Harden plus another Superstar incoming.
     
  9. maj21

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    Ignore that clown. He’s the biggest coward on here
     
  10. chenjy9

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    Lol says the actual clown who wants to trade one of our best players for no reason despite calling himself a “Rockets” fan.
     
  11. Haymitch

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    None of those examples are the same or even similar. Also, and this is the actual point I was making, no one ever gave them the excuse of "he's only been a starting PG for 2 years!!!" Because that's a bs excuse.

    If we put Jalen Green at Center for the next two years and he struggled, I doubt anyone would say "he's only been a center for 2 years!!" as a way to defend the idea of Green as a center. And the reason why? Because that's a nonsense excuse.

    There are several possible defenses of KPJ the PG, but "he's only been PG for 2 years!!" is not one of them. Unheralded players don't get 5 years of starting time at their preferred position before we're able to criticize them. That's not how this works.

    I mean, we have people who we're discussing for tomorrow that haven't even been drafted and many on here are already dismissing their potential. Yet, KPJ is somehow given several years in the league and two years of being gifted a starting role, and we're still not able to criticize him? That's insane.

    He's talented and can contribute to winning in the NBA, but being the starting PG of a very young and chaotic team isn't how he'll contribute to winning.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    KPJ has struggled less at PG the past 2 years than Jalen Green has struggled at SG... should we end the Jalen experiment?

    Is it true that KPJ is better as a SG than a PG, yes, but the hilariously exaggerated "struggles" are absurd. Take a player on a different team that performed exactly the same and you'd be calling for the Rockets to trade for them
     
  13. hlmbasketball

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    My examples are examples of players/guards who succeeded after struggling early on in their careers. Isn't that's what you were referencing?

    I know you weren't expecting him to come in and be an All- Star immediately, all while playing a new position, surrounded by 1st and 2nd yr players and a coach who didn't have a legitimate system.

    Is that what you were expecting?? As a matter of fact, what are you expecting from him at this point?
     
  14. hlmbasketball

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    My examples are examples of players/guards who succeeded after struggling early on in their careers. Isn't that's what you were referencing?

    I know you weren't expecting him to come in and be an All- Star immediately, all while playing a new position, surrounded by 1st and 2nd yr players and a coach who didn't have a legitimate system.

    Is that what you were expecting?? As a matter of fact, what are you expecting from him at this point?
     
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    I swear, I just don't understand the thought process of some fans! They expect KPJ too carry this team to the NBA Finals and anything short is totally unacceptable.
     
  16. hlmbasketball

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    Any other player who was averaging 19/5/5, who was good from 3pt range and who could playmake, if that players was a FA, he would be on the top of their WISHLIST
     
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    KPJ is a good NBA player, but he is not a PG. He is a shooting guard or wing and can score 20+ points a game, nice shooting efficiency and good defense. The problem? Will he act up because he is not STARTING? Will he act up and leave at halftime because he is not getting enough touches?
    I just do not trust him. Playing like his ankle hurt when he miss a shot and do not want to run back on transition defense. I’m tired.
     
  18. Haymitch

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    You're not even attempting to address the topic. So I will take that as a concession that you now agree that "he's only been a PG for 2 years!!" is a nonsense excuse, and you also agree to not use it anymore. Thank you.

    As for what I expected of KPJ - not much of anything. But he has shown an ability to be a good spot up shooter and secondary playmaker. He has the makings of a non-ballhandler perimeter scorer off the bench. And in that way, he can help a team.
     
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  19. hlmbasketball

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    Don't take it as a concession, you should take as COMMON SENSE AND THAT YOU BASICALLY ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION.

    Common sense should tell anyone that if any player or person takes on a new position in a profession, it will take time to master that position.

    Players who come from college who have been playing their position all of their life, it still takes them 2 - 3 yrs to adjust.

    So my question again, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM KPJ AFTER PLAYING PG FOR 2YRS?
     
  20. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I think you probably know who are the players on the roster under 23. Not sure why you’re asking this.
     

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