Robert F. Kennedy Jr. launches unlikely presidential bid as a Democrat

Did you not read what @Os Trigonum posted about RFK being the great unifer that America needs LOLLLL. The amount of pure braindead comments on these forums is hilarious.

 

You're pathetic seriously @Os Trigonum . You wanna keep posting more braindead articles how rfk is a unifer?

 

alright, I'll nibble. what article did I post that argued RJK Jr is a "unifier"? I think I missed the reference

 

I literally quoted it above your post. Do you even read the articles you post ? It talks about how rfk can unite country because of his views. Then he talks about how rfk can cause biden to leave the race via 1968 style.

Give me a break

 

No... this guy isn't a loon...

 

the Kucinich unity comment?? you realize that was Althouse quoting Kucinich to make an entirely different point?

 

The point he's trying make and has been making is that rfk anti vaccine views could help fuel suspicion after biden refuses to debate him and then once rfk gets hot he could force biden out of the race via 1968 style.

Go read his views about 2024. You literally have no idea the stuff you post

 

look, don't take this the wrong way . . . but if I said "you are a moron," that would be an ad hominem against you and an insult.

But if I say "I think you are a moron," that is a descriptive statement about something I believe. In other words, a statement about ME, not about you.

Therefore . . . I think you are a moron.

 

You can think I'm a moron. I don't care. I just don't understand why you post the most low iq stuff when you're a grown ass man who's supposedly a professor. I only respond when you post low iq stuff. Don't post low iq stuff and you'll never see me post

Rfk is not going to unite the democratic party to oust biden.

 

apparently the ONLY person making this argument is RFK Jr's campaign manager

 

It makes perfect sense.
You, however, make no sense at all.

 

The Memo: Democrats divided on whether to attack or ignore RFK Jr.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4057468-democrats-divided-biden-rfk-jr/

 

https://jonathanturley.org/2023/06/20/youtube-censors-robert-f-kennedy-jr/

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YouTube Censors Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
by jonathanturley
June 20, 2023

YouTube has continued its censorship of those with opposing positions on Covid 19 and vaccines. This week it prevented users from hearing the views of Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Despite Kennedy running on the failures of the pandemic response, YouTube will not allow users to hear what it considers harmful thoughts.

On Sunday, both Kennedy and podcast host Jordan Peterson tweeted that they were the latest to be censored by the company. Kennedy tweeted: “What do you think… Should social media platforms censor presidential candidates? My conversation with [Peterson] was deleted by [YouTube].”

He added: “Luckily you can watch it here on [Twitter] (thank you [Elon Musk]).”

The incident shows why many of the left continue an unrelenting attack on Musk and Twitter. Musk eliminated most of the company’s censorship system and, despite a few censorship controversies, the site is now the most open social media site among the major companies.

A Google spokesperson told Fox News Digital YouTube “removed a video from the Jordan Peterson channel for violating YouTube’s general vaccine misinformation policy, which prohibits content that alleges that vaccines cause chronic side effects, outside of rare side effects that are recognized by health authorities.”

Rather than allow experts and others to debate that question, Google and YouTube will not allow the debate to occur. It is consistent with calls from Democratic leaders for dissenting voices to be removed on subjects ranging from Covid to gender identity to climate control.

We have been discussing efforts by figures like Hillary Clinton to enlist European countries to force Twitter to restore censorship rules. Unable to rely on corporate censorship or convince users to embrace censorship, Clinton and others are resorting to good old-fashioned state censorship, even asking other countries to censor the speech of American citizens.

President Joe Biden has at times acted as a virtual censor-in-chief, denouncing social-media companies for “killing people” by not censoring enough. Recently, he expressed doubt that the public can “know the truth” without such censorship by “editors” in Big Tech. There is growing evidence of long-suspected back channels between government and Democratic political figures and Big Tech. Some of those contacts were recently confirmed but Congress again refused to investigate.

For years, scientists faced censorship for even raising the lab theory as a possible explanation for the virus. Their reputations and careers were shredded by a media flash mob. The Washington Post declared this a “debunked” coronavirus “conspiracy theory.” The New York Times’ Science and Health reporter Apoorva Mandavilli was calling any mention of the lab theory “racist.”

When a Chinese researcher told Fox News that this was man-made, the network was attacked and the left-leaning PolitiFact slammed her a “pants on fire rating.”

The mask mandate and other pandemic measures like the closing of schools are now cited as fueling emotional and developmental problems in children. The closing of schools and businesses was challenged by some critics as unnecessary. Many of those critics were also censored. It now appears that they may have been right. Many countries did not close schools and did not experience increases in Covid. However, we are now facing alarming drops in testing scores and alarming rises in medical illness among the young.

The point is only that there were countervailing indicators on mask efficacy and a basis to question the mandates. Yet, there was no real debate because of the censorship supported by many Democratic leaders in social media. To question such mandates was declared a public health threat and what the WHO called our “infodemic.”

A lawsuit was filed by Missouri and Louisiana and joined by leading experts, including Drs. Jayanta Bhattacharya (Stanford University) and Martin Kulldorff (Harvard University). Bhattacharya previously objected to the suspension of Dr. Clare Craig after she raised concerns about Pfizer trial documents. Those doctors were the co-authors of the Great Barrington Declaration, which advocated for a more focused Covid response that targeted the most vulnerable population rather than widespread lockdowns and mandates. Many are now questioning the efficacy and cost of the massive lockdown as well as the real value of masks or the rejection of natural immunities as an alternative to vaccination. Yet, these experts and others were attacked for such views just a year ago. Some found themselves censored on social media for challenging claims of Dr. Fauci and others.

The media has quietly acknowledged the science questioning mask efficacy and school closures without addressing its own role in attacking those who raised these objections.

Yet, the censorship continues to the point that even a presidential candidate is now being silenced on social media.

The censorship of Kennedy is a national disgrace. Despite the proven legitimacy of prior censorship viewpoints like the lab theory and natural immunities, Google continues to silence those with opposing views.

YouTube is signaling that this election will be another exercise in corporate approved messaging and ideas.

If you want to use YouTube, you will now have to engage in self-censorship, eliminating views that Google disagrees with. You may be able to “Broadcast Yourself” but you must first “Censor Yourself” . . . or YouTube will do it for you.
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Even if RFK Jr didn't have ridiculous views that make me laugh at the idea of considering him an alternative, I'd ask: why the presidency? He's had a career taking shots from the cheap seats (honestly not to belittle his work in the private sector), and now at the age of 69 he decides he wants to make the country better not as a Congressman or a Senator or a Governor, but in the top job. This guy, who comes from a family of public servants but never once had an elected position or any kind of government position, thinks he should start at the singular most powerful office in the country. No thanks on amateurs -- even non-crazy ones -- who think we should entrust them with our wellbeing just so that when they're on their deathbeds they can tell themselves they mattered and they won't be forgotten.

 

I think it's more about hurting Biden and forcing the Democratic Party to do something else instead of going with Biden again

 

Clearly RFK is trying to hurt Biden.

Why would a conspiracy theorist with no real government legislation be the person to go against Biden? This is just dark money trying to hurt the Democratic Party which is why you are so giddy.

YULE C

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/19/robert-kennedy-jr-campaign-antivaxx-conspiracy/

In 2021, Kennedy published a book, “The Real Anthony S. Fauci,” that accused the eminent physician who led the U.S. response against AIDS, covid-19 and other deadly infectious diseases of staging a “coup d’état against Western democracy.” In 2022, Kennedy apologized for remarks at a rally on the National Mall in which he compared vaccine mandates to Nazi Germany.

But his deep affinity for conspiracy doesn’t stop there. For a while, he crusaded against 5G internet technology, claiming it damages human DNA and is a secret tool of mass surveillance. He has accused Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates of working to develop an “injectable chip” that would allow, once again, mass surveillance. These are sentiments more commonly expressed on a street corner, at loud volume, while wearing a tinfoil hat.

Kennedy has said he believes that the CIA was behind the 1963 assassination of his uncle President John F. Kennedy and that there is “very convincing” evidence the CIA was also responsible for the assassination of his father, Robert F. Kennedy, in 1968. (Back here in the real world, JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald and RFK was killed by Sirhan Sirhan.) Asked by Rogan whether he, too, could be a target of CIA assassins, Kennedy said, “I gotta be careful. I’m aware of that, you know, I’m aware of that danger.” He added, “I take precautions.”

On current topics, he is more in tune with MAGA Republican policies than those of today’s Democratic Party. He is sharply critical of the Biden administration’s record on immigration, pledging to somehow “seal the border permanently.” He has attacked U.S. support for Ukraine in its fight against Russia, calling the war “a setup by the neocons and the CIA.” And on a podcast hosted by Canadian internet personality Jordan Peterson, he claimed there was an increase in the numbers of transgender youths, which he blamed on their “swimming through a soup of toxic chemicals.”

Fox News has aired dozens of segments about Kennedy’s campaign, treating him as a serious rival to Biden. Former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has endorsed him; the platform’s current owner, Elon Musk, tweets him encouragement. To the extent Kennedy has any support, some might be sincere — and much looks like an attempt to weaken Biden before the general election.

 

There is a reason the majority of his family has come out and said he is an idiot................he is a looney bird

 

I think the memo has been and will be to let him expose himself. Given what his track record is and what he actually believes in, he’ll do a fine job of courting Trump voters and be a great asset for Biden as 3rd party candidate.

Cornel West is a 3rd party candidate that keeps them up at night.