That's fair, I mean, it was a cherry picked metric to begin with though, that's his shtick. He finds the one metric where he can attempt to spin one of the worst players on one of the worst teams in the league into some kind of star. It's absurd, but he's been at this for years now.
The main problem is Jalen is a star, almost a superstar off the court. Until he plays like he is we shouldn’t be called a hater for pointing out flaws jn his game just like any other player who plays for Houston. I pray to God Jalen becomes the player his “ projected to be “ but at this time there is a lot he needs to work on as does every other player on this roster.
In fairness, the team also had a few more competent shooters in 21-22 than they did in 22-23. They actually had 3 guys on the roster that could shoot better from 3 than KPJ, which helped the spacing a bit. Last season they had 0 players that could shoot better than KPJ and we saw the results. It's not easy being a 22 year old PG on a team full of scrubs that can't shoot. If you pass, they just miss, if you try to take it yourself, there's no lanes due to spacing issues. That's why it's hilarious that the worst shooting team in the league is even floating out the idea of drafting a guy like Amen who makes the scrubs on the Rockets look like sharpshooters by comparison. The team desperately needs shooting if they are going to keep the Jalen Green experiment going...meaning they won't have a competent shooting player at the shooting guard position.
Yeah he's hilariously hyped off the court, it's just that he's outright awful on the court the vast majority of the time. If he turns into even a halfway competent player, it'll be a massive upgrade and I'd be all for it.
Sometimes it’s hard to tell if you and others are just using hyperbole or actually believe things like “he’s outright awful on the court the vast majority of time.” At some point you begin to see what you want. You’re so focused on his current flaws you’re apparently completely incapable of seeing any positives in his game. he deserves tonnes of criticism. But this kind of talk is silly. He has a knack for finishing extremely tough, often clutch shots. He has a relatively weak handle and is not a good defender. Sounds fairly normal for a 19 year old who many here, i assume this includes you, think had a terrible coach his first two years in the league. futhermore, it seems to me anyone here hyper critical of Silas should at least reset expectations on players’ current development level until Ime is given a chance to mold them in some capacity. Same should go for those hyper critical of our players — maybe THEYRE so bad it made Silas look bad. of course I don’t believe this, but the point is this there is too much hyperbole and red line drawing and I fear we are going to overlook talent because of our focus on particular, albeit glaring flaws.
I mean, sure he'd say things like that, but do you seriously think he means it when it comes to super immature players like Green who has never been forced to earn playing time in their entire career? Guys who were handed the keys to the franchise based on hype alone. You simply can't force guys like that who think they are already stars to earn anything, they'll just become a locker room problem and you'll have to move them. So while Udoka might mean that for the end of the bench guys, I highly doubt he'll expect the overhyped high draft pick guys to earn anything.
It's what the numbers show, it's what the eye test shows. He's highly inefficient on offense because he's a poor shooter and essentially has no bag outside of running fast and praying for a whistle. On top of that, he's an absolute abomination on defense. He's also not 19, he's 21. I'm not saying it's impossible for him to get better, but those who pretend he's good are just absurd. He's been one of the main reasons the Rockets keep losing.
Neither is good, but that's like saying that both Jalen Green and Amen Thompson can't shoot. It's sort of true, but suggesting that they are on the same level of awful is dishonest. Jalen Green is one of the worst overall defensive players in the league, KPJ is mediocre. That's just defense though. KPJ is the better ball handler, the better passer, the better shooter....he's just the all around better player and it's not terribly close. At this point, there's almost nothing Jalen Green does well, he's just a highly athletic chucker that doesn't even pretend to try on defense. He's been hyped up to be some kind of budding star, but there's simply nothing of substance to base that on...people just get dazzled by the flashy athleticism and confuse that for actual skill. If you were looking at it from an unbiased standpoint, you'd see that.
. I'm mean we are comparing the same season. Off and on numbers have better context comparing players in the same team in the same year. Different seasons have different context. At his current time as we speak Green brings more.vslue compared to KPJ in terms of the 2022-2023 season
It’s not just hyped in terms of his potiental off court is what I mean in terms of star. He is the face of brands, and has most likely 5-6 other income streams through that.
the context is, in terms of being in the NBA. KPJ has done more to equate to winning than Jalen Green. Why can’t you just agree with facts?
Do you understand that on and off numbers with different rosters and different seasons is harder to have a one-to-one comparison with then comparing two teammates on the same roster in the same season. If we want to play this game, then what was Kevin Porter Jr.'s on and off in his second year compared to Green's second year.
It's weird to damn the team as the worst shooting team in the league but not letting the point guard bear any of that responsibility.
