Liberals are corrupt, hateful, immoral and taking the country in the wrong direction

Taxes are not fascism. No matter how you want to spin what fascism is, it's a very specific thing that has already been discussed ad nauseum. You know it pulls elements from both nationalism (the far right), and socialism.

Furthermore, people here use socialism far far more than fascism as a pejorative. If you want people to stop throwing out the word fascist at every little thing, then start by not labeling the other side as corrupt hateful immoral socialists. This is just directed to you but to everyone.

 

Breh how will the exit tax apply if a significant county wants to leave California ?

Perfectly said

 

taxes are not however -
Here's what I specifically found and is cited : "Fascism places the importance of the nation above all else" ... so doing this thru exit taxes is a byproduct of a failed governmental system- it's a manner in which people are simply assets and independent decisions are monetarily penalized if it is NOT in the best interest of the nation or state of California in this particular case ..

In terms of economics, fascism incorporates elements of both capitalism and socialism. Fascist economists advocate for self-sufficiency and individual profit, but promote government subsidies of corporations. Fascist economics thus supports a blend of both private and public ownership over the means of production—there is an emphasis on private profit, but at the same time, the national interest is ultimately more important...

So contrast exit tax that penalizes individual interests with Tennessee- they just lowered the minimum business tax license threshold from $10K to $99K - means that small business owners have incentive to conduct business with less BS and perhaps the state does NOT profit as much, and you could say this is NOT entirely in the best interest of the state, but it's putting the interest of decisions back towards the individual and not the state - California simply has backwards thinking

 

Also, why one state is having the fastest growing population incoming versus the other state that is having continuous exit issues

 

I am not a fan of taxing gains before they are realized. The US has an exit tax if you want to become an expatriate - but yeah I am not sure how fair a state doing that is on something like capital gains.

That does not however make California fascist.

 

LOL... republicans are tougher on some crimes, but not others.

 

Republicans are selfish, they only care about themselves.

DD

 

Not a generalization at all. So nuanced.

 

Did you complain about the generalization of the thread title?

 

No, I only complain when it's something I don't like.

Like all of you mf'ers lol

 

roflmao

yet another eg of ill-informed sheeps parroting convenient dis-information.

while San Bernardino county is the largest county, by physical size, it is one of the poorest in Calif.
San Bernardino County's rate of poverty is higher than state and national averages.
historically, the City of San Bernardino has always had the highest crime rate in the state.


most Californians, me included, would like to see it exit yesterday

 

So easily you discard the county and the included decent areas - these are people that have suffered enough - isn't there decent areas such Lomo Linda in the county? I can point to articles which indicate it's one of the preferred areas to live in the whole state so you have that positive for the county...as far as what is worst ? Yea San Bernardino it's bad - you could say the whole state is bad too large degree but closer inspection indicates there are 5 localities with a higher crime rate per population https://www.southwestjournal.com/most-dangerous-cities-in-california/#

The point is you don't see too many counties in other states WITHOUT a EXIT problem wishing they could get out the way this county has expressed...

talking about your inference of sheep whatever that means perhaps getting out of California is the cool thing to do so everyone's going to do it but I think it goes beyond that and I think everybody realizes the state does not make it attractive to work, and live there - in fact the State realizes it so much they want to monetarily penalize the large exodus - what other states would even consider this?

the cost of living, the crime, the rules and laws and lack of choices are even going to be worse

you keep being a good sheep, and do what the state government tells you to do- when they say jump or tax just ask them how high- the other Californians in various counties simply want to get out, and frankly they should not be blamed

 

I think there is a dividing line…. Between social conservatism and fascism.

Feels like we are getting real close to it with Christian Nationalist candidates like DeSantis.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/maj...=insider-politics-sub-post&utm_content=topbar



This is pretty sad. People talk about the 'slippery slope' but I think we really need to talk about the slipper slope of hate.

It started off with Trans people and now suddenly we've gone backwards and now the majority of Republicans feel like gay relationships are immoral. We've gone backwards.

Just pointing this out to those folks who complain about this stuff. @AroundTheWorld , remember, it was about 'protecting the children'. It's not. It's about ramping up a negative narrative about a group of people so that when the discrimination comes for those people it'll seem justified. We've seen this time and time and time again throughout history.

You demonize a group enough to then justify doing bad things to them.

 

It is about protecting the children, for me, and I suspect for many others. Nothing you posted indicates otherwise.

Is that what Biden and the Dems are doing with MAGA people and DeSantis? Gotcha.

 

And then call it freedom and wave their little tiny American flags.

This was always about making the gays the boogeyman. I wouldn’t expect to get an honest answer.

 

Protecting them from what? The Catholic priests? Mormons? Your closeted homosexual tendencies?

You want to indoctrinate the children that it is not okay or normal to be gay. Full stop.

 

The Christian Right wants a two tiered system:

They just want to handle things internally…. Public teachers vs men of faith.

Arizona court upholds clergy privilege in child abuse case
https://apnews.com/article/mormon-church-child-sex-abuse-e02ae4470a5a53cbeb9aa146ff2762ac

 

Is it?

So question.

What do children have to do with the opinion on same sex relationships going downward? More people now believe that same sex relationships are immoral. What does that have to do with children?

A man marries a man, a woman marries a woman, what does that have to do with children? Why, in one year, do we see a rise in the opinion that THAT in particular is immoral?