That may be true for Altuve but not Bregman. Bregman will be 31 and will want at least 6 years and $25M per absolute minimum. $30M per would not surprise me. Look at the contracts other all star level players are signing.
Idk? No one knows. But if he keeps playing the way he is playing I would think not. And on top of that alot of teams won't even touch him because of the Cheating scandal thing. I would bet both Altuve and Bregman get south of 20m per year to stay life long Astros. Also a term trade for Robert's to play CF is what the DR ordered if your keeping Maldy at C. Like I said before Wade Jr in LF would be awesome to go with aswell.
Besides Robert's is locked up til 2027 he only males 20m per in 26 and 27 everything else is less then 15m. How is he making way to much? Your paying Brantley almost that much and he hasn't seen the field yet?
I just think we would be better off trading for Judge and Cole as opposed to Robert’s (whoever that is) and Wade Judge is a more consistent bat than whoever Robert’s is, and Cole would solidify the rotation McCormick and France should get it done? Also we should trade Beilak for Hader to solidify the pen. I’m sure SD has seen how good Beilak is they should be all over that? Altuve Peña Judge Yordan Bregman Tucker Diaz Abreu Meyers Framber Cole Javier Brown Urquidy Hader Pressly Abreu Neris Should get it done
I'm not sure why more people aren't sold on goldy from cardinals? Hell be perfect and I've been saying this since from beginning. He would be sick at MMP
Cardinals don't typically sell... even when they're further out than they are now... which is less further out than the Phillies/Nats/Braves have been in recent years (before their deep run) and I still think the NL central is pretty weak.
They will sell, they are out of it, and they are smart. But they can probably get enough for Montgomery, Flaherty, DeJong, Hicks, and Stratton to stop there. Prying Goldschmidt or any of their other multiyear players will probably require a big overpay.
They don’t usually sell… and they certainly don’t sell their best players. It’s just not what their market tolerates in terms of how you reload and their GM has been steadfast. They probably won’t chase it… but standing pat or off-loading some non marquee guys for prospects is as close to selling as they’ll get.
I will be very very surprised if they don’t trade Montgomery (their best SP) and DeJong (their starting SS). They may demand major league ready young players in return so they can spin it as a pivot rather than a white flag. But Montgomery might be the most valuable rental SP available; it would be pretty foolish to hang on to him when they have <10% chance of making the playoffs. I don’t think they’ve been this far out of it in a season as far back as I can remember. This is pretty rare territory for them.
But it’s not unprecedented that they could make a run in a weak division. they still have the most talent on any roster there. Disappointing season for sure… but they’ve got too much invested to do a complete tear down. And again, not something their fan base would accept (and unlike the Astros, they do take their very loyal fan base into consideration when deciding who to hang on to and when to wave white flags).
I would be ok with Flaherty but would prefer Montgomery. Ks are a bit less, but the Astros have a strong defense and he walks half as many and pitches a little deeper into games. Flaherty is also having a second consecutive mediocre season. They are both rentals so would reasonably priced but are competing against several other teams. 2-3 prospects should do it but they would likely be a step up from the prospects that would have been needed a few years ago. As for Goldschmidt: I would love to have him but it would hurt !! Like crazy bad hurt!! The Cardinals are loaded with position players so they would mostly want pitching which means Brown. Nobody else has enough value to even be considered.
For now this season looks like the most lopsided sellers market I can remember. There are only 5-6 teams poised to sell and none of them have all that much to offer. I think the reliever market will be ok. But teams looking for impact bats or quality starting pitching are going to find the prices very very high. That’s why I expect Houston to shop at the lower/riskier end of both of those markets. I do think Houston will add a quality reliever to their bullpen.
According to Fangraphs: A 50 is a #4 starter, mid kevel leverage reliever: Think Jose Urquidy or Hector Neris. A scouting grade of 45 is a #5 starter or low level set up man. Think Jake Odorizzi or Ryne Stanek. 40 is a swingman or middle reliever. Think Ronel Blanco or Seth Martinez. There is no way the Cardinals don't get at least 1 50 or better pitcher and a 55+ level pitcher is probably more realistic as a headliner. Brown or Abreu are the only 2 young pitchers the Astros have who meet that requirement. Maybe Garcia if the Cards are OK with his medical prognosis and progress. According to fangraphs Teey Dombroski is the Astros top pitching prospect and he is a 40+ According to mlbpipeline, Spencer Arrighetti, Miguel Ullola, and Misael Tamarez are all 45. I don't see any way a Goldschmidt trade would even be possible.
It’s also a chance to sell if we wanted to. I’d love to know what we could get for Tucker, Stanek, Jake or Chas, Montero (like- could we get off his contract). if Brantley, Yordan and Urquidy all came back and you just cut bait on the bottom feeders this could be your 26 man roster: SP: Framber, Javier, Brown, Urquidy, France RP: Presley, Abreu, Nerris, Maton, Blanco, Bielak, Martinez, Gage Maldy, Lee, Abreu, Altuve, Peña, Bregman, Diaz, Alvarez, Brantley, (Chas or Jake), Dubon, Dirden, Kessinger (no playing time to speak of). Vs LHP- Maldy, Abreu, Altuve, Peña, Bregman, Diaz, Yordan, Chas or Jake, Dubon. VS RHP- Maldy Lee or Diaz, Abreu or Diaz, Altuve, Peña, Bregman, Yordan, Brantley, Dirden, Chas or Jake whoever didn’t get traded. You probably move off 25M in salary and collect 3 top 100 prospects and 3 guys that fit 15-30 in the organizational prospect for sending out Tucker, Stanek, Montero, Chas or Jake (whoever has most value). I think I like that set up better going forward than us trading too 20-30 type org guys for the Trey Mancinis of the world. That could set us up to be really freaking good through the end of the decade. Bregman and Altuve shouldn’t cost more than their present salaries to extend, 2 of those 6 guys you’d get should be really good players and another 1 will probably help somewhere, you have an extra 25M a year (plus the 25 you didn’t use this year) to extend from a group of : Framber, Pena, Brown, Abreu (RP) that you’d like to be core pieces through the end of the decade.
I wouldn’t be opposed to checking the market for Bregman and Tucker. If a team with a good farm values either guy like a superstar and is willing to give 2 top 50 prospects plus another top 100 guy, then it’s worth thinking about. They can make a separate trade for a lesser player (like Matt Duffy or Cody Bellinger) to replace them for this season and only lose 2-3 wins max on paper. I super duper doubt any of that is really possible but it would be worth looking into. Here’s a fun thought: Astros get: SS Jordan Lawler UT Josh Rojas 2B Ryan Bliss RHP Landon Sims Diamondbacks get: 3B Alex Bregman Astros get a MLB top 20 prospect who is a potential superstar, plus a buy-low utility guy who can either replace Bregman this season or replace Dubon’s role while Dubon plays 3B. They also get 2 potential core pieces in former high draft picks Bliss and Sims. The 3 prospects would all likely fit among Houston’s top 10 prospects with Lawler easily becoming their top prospect. Diamondbacks address their weakest position with a guy who has played at an mvp level in the past and has another year of control. This would be a bad trade for Arizona (especially considering Rivera and Longoria have been adequate for them at 3B) so I would be utterly shocked if something like this happened, but it’s the type of deal I would look into if I were Houston trying to capitalize on the sellers market.
Neither will happen unless this team completely falls out of the race and even then the chances are very very small. If they did, Tucker would make sense because of the depth of OF in the system. Bregman makes no sense unless a 3B comes back in the return.
Really surprised at the amount of people saying to trade tucker, bregman, etc when we are 3.5 games out of first.....
