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transgendering the kids

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Sep 21, 2022.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Very well said.

    I'll be attending a gay wedding in 6 weeks, and we will be taking our kids.

    Sadly, people who believe in authoritarian states have always wanted to go after other people's kids.

    Hell, Putin's Russia is abducting Ukrainian kids as we speak.
     
  2. basso

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    a few summers ago we went to three weddings, Richard & John, John & Susan, and Susan & Barbara.
     
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  3. leroy

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    Um. Like Florida?
     
  4. Amiga

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    Which one of you did this?


    https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/431500/Girl-9-accused-of-being-trans-at-Kelowna-track-meet

    Two Kelowna moms are speaking out after their 9-year-old daughter was verbally assaulted at a track and field event on Thursday at Kelowna's Apple Bowl.

    The mothers, who choose not to identify their daughter, say she was competing in a shot-put event when a grandfather of one of the other participants started yelling at her.

    "She went to step up to compete for the grade four shot-put final, and right before she went to throw, a grandfather of a student said, 'Hey, this is supposed to be a girls' event, and why are you letting boys compete.' My daughter is cisgender, born female, uses she/her pronouns. She has a pixie haircut," said mom Heidi Starr.

    Starr says the man then carried on to demand certification to prove that her daughter was born female.

    "He stopped the entire event. He also pointed at another girl who also had short hair. He then piped in and said, 'Well, if she is not a boy, then she is obviously trans.'"

    Starr said the man's wife then started calling her "a genital mutilator, a groomer, and a pedophile."

    Central Okanagan School District superintendent Kevin Kaardal confirmed with Castanet that steps are being taken to ban the man from all school-related events.

    "Staff intervened and actually moved the shot-put away from where he was. The gentleman was not a part of our school district. We are taking steps to ensure he is not able to be on our school property or attend events in the future."

    Kaardal said the incident was "totally unacceptable."

    "Adults need to govern themselves and behave appropriately," he added.

    Kari Starr, the girl's other mother, says Thursday's events have rocked their daughter's confidence.

    "This has destroyed our beautiful daughter's confidence, and she was inconsolably crying during this whole event and continued once it was over and we were leaving. Not to mention, she was unable to concentrate on her track and field finals and the shot-put throw for which she had qualified," Kari said.

    The parents posted a photo and identity of the man on local Facebook groups, but Castanet is not publishing that information because the man's identity has not been confirmed by the school district.
     
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  5. basso

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    Florida is abducting people's kids?
     
  6. basso

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    my take away from this is...4th graders do shot put?
     
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  7. JayGoogle

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    Completely fine by the way, these women do this in front of thousands of kids weekly.

    I agree, much different, the difference is that we let pre-18 year old girls in these same exact outfits and dance around and no one cares at all or goes on about children being sexualized.
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    6 year olds man... 6 year olds are groomed in child beauty pageants. But not a peep of outrage.
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    They are not pretending they are something they aren't; and they aren't specifically targeting kids.
     
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  10. rocketsjudoka

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    This is worth bringing up again.
    https://newrepublic.com/post/172444/florida-passes-bill-allowing-trans-kids-taken-families

    Florida Passes Bill Allowing Trans Kids to Be Taken From Their Families
    Florida Republicans have sent the kidnapping bill to Ron DeSantis to sign.
    The Florida legislature passed a bill Thursday that will let the state take transgender minors away from their families if they are receiving gender-affirming care.

    The bill passed the Senate by a vote of 26–13, mainly along party lines, and the House shortly after by a vote of 83–28, again along party lines. The measure now goes to the desk of Governor Ron DeSantis, who has previously expressed support for it and will likely sign it into law.


    If he signs it into law, the measure will allow the state to take custody of a child if they have been “subjected to or [are] threatened with being subjected to” gender-affirming care, which includes puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapy. Florida courts could modify custody agreements from a different state if the minor is likely to receive gender-affirming care in that second state. The text refers to gender-affirming care as “sex-reassignment prescriptions or procedures” and qualifies this care as a form of “physical harm.”


    Medical facilities would have to give the state Department of Health a signed attestation that they neither provide gender-affirming care to any patients under the age of 18 nor refer people to providers that do. Their medical license renewal is contingent upon sending in this attestation.

    But the bill also targets trans adults: Only physicians are allowed to offer gender-affirming care (not nurse practitioners). Anyone who violates the law could be charged with a misdemeanor.


    Minors who have already begun transitioning will be allowed to continue to do so, but they are no longer allowed to receive care via telehealth, including for prescriptions. Their doctors have to tell them about the “risks” of gender-affirming care, and patients will have to sign an informed consent form, which the ACLU has pointed out often contains misinformation. Doctors who violate any of these new rules could be charged with a felony.

    “This is not the body that practices medicine, although we love to believe that we can,” Representative Kelly Skidmore said during the debate. “This is the wrong thing to do.”

    “This is a bad bill that interferes with parental rights, that interferes with health care rights, and it puts people in danger of not being able to get the care that they need.”


    Republicans across the country have introduced bills targeting gender-affirming care, insisting that by doing so, they are protecting children. Instead, lawmakers are criminalizing LGBTQ people of all ages and putting them at risk of real harm.

    Florida seems to be leading the charge. The measure passed Thursday is one of the cruelest yet. State Republicans have openly admitted they “hate” LGBTQ people and are comfortable with “erasing” the community from existence.

     
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  11. AroundTheWorld

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    Good. Protect the children from mutilation.
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    Well so much for parental
    Rights or not targeting kids
     
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    Parental rights are not unlimited. Child protection comes first.

    If parents want to chop a child's leg off, the child needs to be protected from that.

    Same when parents want to practice genital mutilation on their child, or chemically castrate it.
     
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    Fascist
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    None of these parents chopped legs, penises etc. This is an odd fetish addiction for you
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    First off I don’t think parents are doing this themselves and would agree a parent practicing medicine in their house unlicensed would be grounds for abuse. This law doesn’t address that.

    But it does go to show thst this really isn’t about parental rights. It also shows that this is about the state take of away children for ideological reasons.

    In other words your argument amounts to targeting children is ok when you agree with it ideologically.
     
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  17. AroundTheWorld

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    No, that's not "targeting" children, that's protecting them from abuse.
     
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    That was the same justification that the US government once made to take Native American children from their families. It’s also a frequent justification made by state DPs’ to remove poor children with little basis then that the parents are poor.

    Besides that you’re making my point.
     
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    Should parents of children who attend child beauty pageants have their children taken away also?
     
  20. AroundTheWorld

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    Chemically castrating or mutilating genitals of a child is irreversible abuse. There is no justification for it. Children must be protected from that.
     

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