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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ItsMyFault, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. fchowd0311

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    you'll probably like reading about Kate Hayhoe then

    https://sciencemeetsfaith.wordpress.com/tag/kate-hayhoe/
     
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    No idea who these people are, but - wrong thread.
     
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    Ireland culling 10% of their cattle (I'm assuming sheep as well) is not a bad thing. Everyone should do it, I already have due to drought conditions.

    Ethanol has been a scam for ~30 years, but you can't piss off the corn people in the US.

    It would be wonderful if we could stop clearcutting rainforests in Brazil for soybeans and in Indonesia for palm oil.

    Care to summarize, since you watched the whole hour and 17 minutes?

    We've been out of the pecan business for a while, but am just curious what that's about.
     
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    You can start up a pecan orchard and have trees to harvest in a 10 year window opposed to the old train of thought that starting a pecan orchard would be a 40 to 50 year investment. They've re-introduced native plants and grasses into their orchard and found that increased biodiversity of habitat as a result around their orchard has lead to less general pesticide use and better tree health of pecans opposed to maintaining a monoculture.

    They build this particular type of static compost bioreactor for use of woodchips as a soil amendment once the compost is finished. It leads to a fungally dominant compost that they amend around their prairie and orchard along with a dispersal of woodchips to feed the fungally dominant compost amendments throughout the year.



    They cover building bat houses in order to better mitigate against pests and also make good use of the guano as a compost amendment. This particular book is what was specifically suggested as the author helped with some health crisis among the bat population in Austin near Lady Bird Lake around the Congress bridge.

    The Bat House Builder's Handbook, Completely Revised and Updated Paperback – March 1, 2005
    by Merlin D. Tuttle (Author)

    Since implementing organic or traditionally regenerative agricultural practices, use of pesticides and fertilizers has lessened by as much as 50%. The pesticides that are used are specific to the type of pest prone to damaging pecan trees instead of general purpose pesticide that can also eliminate your beneficial habitat. This is done in order to maintain the biodiversity of habitat in the soil and environment that leads to less usage of synthetic fertilizer and pesticide/fungicide use. Less use of fertilizer and general purpose pesticide/fungicide is cost saving in it's own right.

    They also don't tear down trees and have quasi benefitted from the floods in 2013 and 2015 as it resulted in thousands of Cypress trees getting downed that conveniently enough were on their property and the presenter makes a hefty mint selling the downed trees for woodworking projects. Brief mycological talk on how some fungi that can invade downed trees actually make for better woodworking projects as they can alter the physical properties of the wood making it more valuable per cut.

    Presenter also uses drip irrigation and found that to be a cost saving investment that leads to better tree health.

    Mentions being in the ears of people that operate Texas A&M agriculture department.

    Doesn't use cover crops and finds the instead increased biodiversity of native grasses and plants on the prairie parts of his property is better for his pecan orchard than anything else thus far experimented.
     
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    Thanks!

    At a quick glance that's a whole lot of stuff we always did (getting rid of invasives and favoring native plants and grasses is a huge thing, not just in orchards, and have been for a while...I got really good at building and mounting bat houses, for examples), I'll do a deeper read into it soon.

    Also, as a quasi-aside, pecans need a good bit of water, but it's nothing like the almond orchards in Central Cali. I love almonds as a snack, but I don't eat nearly as many as I used to.
     
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    Wrong thread.
     
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    Messengers of the apocalypse have existed since the beginning of mankind, and in different cultures as well, causing all kinds of horrible atrocities, because they used their doomsday prophecies to gain status, power, money, with no regard for how much others would have to suffer because of it.

    Human sacrifice to "appease the gods and avoid apocalypse" is one of the worst excesses of it, whether in Japan, Easter Island, various Latin American cultures or elsewhere...

    The climate cult doesn't directly go quite as far, but a lot of the characteristics are similar.

    The climate cult has become like a religion for many.
     
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    https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check...ete-claim-that-humanity-will-end-2023-1787420

    The tweet that Thunberg allegedly sent referenced an article that did not say the world would end by 2023.

    The article, which is no longer online, did inaccurately reference quotes from climate expert Professor James Anderson, who said in 2018 that unless the world stopped using fossil fuels by 2023, the effect on the polar ice caps would be irreversible.

    While none of Anderson's quotes (at least those online) state that humanity would be wiped out, it is also inaccurate to claim that Thunberg's tweet or the article she referenced said the world was going to end this year.
     
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    Another in a long line of dishonest tweets posted by you.
     
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    I think you mean a dishonest tweet by Greta
     
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    Nope. Not at all what I mean. It's already been clarified with correct context provided.
     
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    lol

    "context"
     
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    You clearly cannot read. It’s obvious that the science says that irreversible damage will be done at that point that can’t be undone. It doesn’t mean the world will end in 2023. It means if changes aren’t made by that point in the later future we’ll pay the price for not making changes earlier on.

    Also Greta is an activist. Not a scientist. Not a government leader. Their entire job as activists is to get attention to a topic and lead you to do your homework to get informed, and be inspired to make changes.

    She did her job to get your attention and instead of being informed you decided to … well do what you do.
     

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