Same here. But it seems some prefer to pick and choose who is allowed to mishandle classified information.
Prosecutorial discretion has been a thing since common law was invented. Beyond that, there are absolutely degrees to criminal law. I’m sure you know that already.
It seems you have been AFK from this forum for awhile. To clarify, I think Trump is absolute trash. I think the Biden administration is trash. Our government is under attack from extremist from both sides, but fortunately our Constitution is solid enough to withstand attacks from both sides. Its flawed, absolutely, but hopefully strong enough to withstand weaker governance across the globe. There is not a better place to be than the USA. If there is anyone who feels differently than this, across the board, then they should be seeking assylum to whatever paradise they believe is better than this country. When this country starts stooping to 3rd world nations politics, its in serious danger. When this country starts picking and choosing which laws to uphold, its in danger. Personally, I am hoping and have confidence its a simple phase and transition. Between the gerontocracy of Biden and Trump, what are the options? Elders are there to serve as advisors, not leaders.
What does AFK mean? I don’t know or care what you think about Trump. I responded to a message. Maybe AFK means I don’t give a flying **** about what you’ve said in this forum…in which case you’re right, I’m insanely AFK.
First world countries have prosecuted former leaders. France, Israel, Korea, etc. Have all done it. It isn't a third world tactic. If you expect a large populace to buy into the legal system, it has to be equally applied. The indictment and evidence included is pretty damming. It is a serious crime, especially when he's inviting people to look at the documents, which there are tapes of him doing. He lied about doing it, has been unrepentant, got busted. The investigator was independent. The evidence he found, shows the investigation was warranted. The indictment isn't out of line. Not indicting Trump sends a clear message that if you get rich and powerful enough, the laws don't apply to you. That message is un-American and dangerous.
Disappointing. I recall you claiming to be a moderate open minded pastor. Perhaps I confused you with someone else. not much else to say to you.
Yes it is super weird. They used to fight against the government, now all they want to do is to cooperate with the government to put all of us in chains.
Conservative trolls genuinely seem like they got the wind knocked out of their sails. Tepid responses thus far. Telling.
It super weird seeing conservatives who claim to uphold law and order defend criminals and go after law enforcement.
This isn’t the country stooping to third world. This isn’t even selective prosecution. Trump like Biden and Pence was given several opportunities comply with the law. It’s only that he obstructed and obfuscated that he is indicted. Trump was treated initially the same but it’s his own actions that are different than every former ex president. Also your point about beating Trump at the polls rather than the courts contradicts your argument about enforcing the laws equally. If politicians can t be held liable for criminal behavior then that isn’t enforcing the laws equally.
Remember: if they can bust Donald Trump for stealing classified documents he had no right to have, lying about having them and returning them, showing them to civilians who have no security clearance, and jeopardizing information about our nuclear capabilities and vulnerabilities, it can happen to you, too
Why do people try to compare the Biden/Pence issue to the Trump issue? They aren't remotely close. Biden/Pence found documents they didn't realize they had. They contacted the authorities to let them know they found some documents and to come get them. They actually asked the authorities to perform searches. Trump was asked for documents. He refused. He was asked again. He gave some back. He was asked again. Gave a few more. He was subpoenaed for the documents. He asked his lawyers to lie. He had someone move boxes multiple times to avoid his lawyers going through them. He told them the boxes were all he had all the whike knowing ha had someone move other boxes so his lawyers wouldn't know about them. He is on tape admitting he had classified information he didn't declassify while showing them to people. Now let's think about this. He is charged concerning 31 documents. These documents aren't the worst ones. They are the worst ones the relevant agencies would let be placed in a court case due to national security. That would have some public scrutiny. Ones that probably no longer matter. How many do you think were recovered that still have bearing on national security? The ones where the relevant agencies said "There is no way this can get out". The special counsel knows 31 are enough to prove their point and their case. People really need to read the indictment.
It’s either deflection, whataboutism, or ignorance. The Presidential Records Act does give former presidents access to classified materiel and allows for a good faith effort to retain that material. What it doesn’t do is allow for continued storage of classified material in insecure locations like bathrooms in Mar-A-Lago. Why Biden Pence and etc aren’t being indicted is because they made a good faith effort to comply with the PRA while Trump outrightly defied it and in his own words he says that this isn’t just a matter of ignorance but that he feels it doesn’t apply to him. That is the key difference here and why this isn’t a politically motivated prosecution but a very careful prosecution based on mountains of evidence. This is why so much of the defense of Trump is partisan and nature and rarely addresses the facts or the law.
