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transgendering the kids

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Sep 21, 2022.

  1. DonnyMost

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    I'm rarely in the middle on anything, but I consistently piss you and every other ideological hardliner off because I don't keep to one side of the street.

    You evaluate topics with all the nuance of a steamroller. Just the same damn liberal knee-jerk and worst partisan instincts. It's really yawn inducing.
     
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    I'll take the high road here and say that I believe your intentions to be good, but it gets increasingly difficult to say that whenever you tar an entire classification of people as pedophiles.
     
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    "Undisclosed/unaccounted for"

    Yes, I was saying....


    Your narrative only works with the right wing conservative ideological outlooks on human nature, mainly the h part that believes there can be an inherent group of evil.


    Again , similar logical reasoning for the extreme outcry for "late term abortions " as an entire platform for politics when it is so rare and occurs in extreme circumstances.

    There are women who regret their abortion, change their mind about the nature of life etc and that would not be a valid reason to ban abortions and a few anecdotes of changed minds is enough reason for all these bills being rammed down and the massive amount of concentration and dedication to this cause. When the cause to "protect children from the trans agenda" becomes so ubiquitous and outdoes discussions about basic things like rent prices debilitating thousands of American families in terms of prevalence in the social zeitgeist, that simply turns the entirety of the identity of "trans person" into a public enemy and that is the goal of ramming these 556 bills and spamming our social media feeds with this type of content.
     
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    Defending bad arguments is not nuance. Why have you wasted so much of your day on a small topic? Not just say, but weeks to months.

    Why has the social zeitgeist entirely centered around this discussion of such small prevalence in society? What nuance is there in spamming this discussion over and over and over?

    Why is this being god damn discussed so God damn much?

    Why?

    Am I going insane?
     
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    I never argued for that.

    This feels like a pigpen debate on twitter or tiktok where perceived slippery slopes are as real as hurtful words.

    Keep being the lazy ostrich by ignoring the articles from publications you claim to trust for a topic you claim to care about.

    You're mommas the pedo. I am proof.

    /fin
     
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    How many incidents per year on the planet of this concern happening does it need to go down to to get out as the number one topic of our generation?

    2 children regretting per year down from 5?

    Let's set goals to solve this problem. It's a good way to solve problems. This is a major problem obviously given the time dedication to it in our social zeitgeist.
     
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    Part of me thinks this is a deliberate headfake by conservative activists in response to the bloodbath that was the 2022 Midterms.

    Roe v Wade and the Stop the Steal nonsense absolutely torpedoed them, so they went all hands to scramble for a distraction.

    It is obviously getting way more airtime and headspace than it deserves... and we should always be leery of anyone who claims to be motivated by "protecting the children"... that angle is a well-worn sales pitch for some truly heinous ideas.
     
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    You remind me of chem/bio classmates of old dry labbing results to reach a conclusion on paper they had already preconceived.

    It's a very vapid and dangerous mis-application of science.

    The articles mentioned a study on the long-term effects of chemical treatment on minors that began in 2015. Can you wait ten more years for your goal driven results? Another ten years to bring it down to 3?

    Henceforth a paradigmatic shift is indubitably warranted!
     
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    I'm not attempting to apply any science here. I'm trying to understand why there are like 4 threads dedicated to trans issues on a nba team message board.

    And you remind me of a narcissist. I'm not trying to be right. I'm not trying to express my expert science acumen. I'm sincerely wondering what has changed in the past two years that warrant this frequency of discourse?

    And can you explain the difference in the logic and reasoning that leads to the outcry of late term abortions and the out cry of trans children?
     
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    If you're shifting the goal posts from the original reply you quoted and into a meta discussion that derails more than enhances the topic, then I have nothing more to say to you
     
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    I've been at the meta level this entire time. My premise is that the psychology behind being severely concerned about this is the same psychology in believing that there is a cadre full of women eager to kill their baby right before birth to at least believe the frequency of the problem is pervasive enough to make it a central issue of our election cycle.
     
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    For the amount this effects society in the real world, this topic amount to some poster posting single article as a new thread about the issue and have like 15 people comment on it and it's never discussed again for any other topic.

    There are issues that are effecting millions more that is discussed for 10 minutes on this subforum in ints entire existence
     
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    Fine I'll bite.

    It's a bizarre and glib analogy if only because this topic debates the question of GAC treatment on adolescents who aren't developmentally nor emotionally mature, whereas the 4 or 5 other topics are about trans in general.

    If you're generalizing this topic into the bucket trans category, I support trans rights and the assumptions I had with GAC on minors are being revisited with more accounts and casual research. Why do I care enough to follow/read opinions/write about trans?
    • Previous coworkers who identified as trans and shared their experience
    • A proliferation of trans stories a couple years ago that seemed like it appeared non-stop on NPR about experiences of trans, parents of trans and children of trans. All I wanted was the witty interviews of Terry Gross that made me feel worldly, enlightened and in the know
    • More LGBTQ characters on popular media
    Most importantly: the landmark SCOTUS decision that made trans a de facto protected class through Title 9 and carries massive legal, regulatory, civil, and monetary consequences. It goes beyond bathrooms. Even common law definitions of marriage or child custody can be impacted in the future.

    Yeah, that part just makes anyone go hmmm.
     
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