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Florida/DeSantis is human trafficking migrants from Texas to California

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Jun 5, 2023.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    that's a big stretch and I think you know it lol
     
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    So you would allow them in and then make them homeless?
     
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    That's irrelevant. You can't tell someone you're taking them where they want to go, and going to provide them free food and housing, and get them a job - and then take them somewhere else and abandon them at a church. That is in fact a crime.
     
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    you made that all up in your head

    Newsom promised a sanctuary state. Now help these people. Don't be inhumane. Empty promises?
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Seeking asylum isn't illegal. You don't seem particularly invested or informed on this. If they were illegal, they would be deported.
     
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    What the hell do you think sanctuary city means? It doesn't mean free food and guaranteed job.
     
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    There's a link in the original post in this thread. In that article, everything I stated comes from there.
     
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    Again, he's admitted to just posting things that come up in his thread and appears to believe them or at least form his opinion on issue without diving any deeper or checking for accuracy and context.

    So it isn't surprising that he's unaware of relevant information.
     
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    You are not very informed. The whole point of sanctuary cities/states is that they don't deport.
     
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    so just make them homeless and starve them? sounds like San Francisco
    there goes the virtue signaling
     
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    Your thread title is wrong. The premise of your thread is wrong. The fake outrage is disingenuous and wrong.
     
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    That isn't the point and isn't what sanctuary city means. You are flat out wrong.

    This is what it means:
    Sanctuary Cities allow undocumented immigrants to interact with our local government without fear of deportation.

    It was put in place to combat groups that prey on immigrant communities and others such as MS13. These violent gangs would take advantage of the fact witnesses might not be willing to work with law enforcement due to fear of being deported if they reported crimes to officials.

    Sanctuary cities guarantee that undocumented immigrants won't be deported when interacting with law enforcement regarding reporting crimes.

    It allows these undocumented immigrants to report abuses of spouses, children, and others without fear it will result in their deportation.
     
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    Apparently, your solution is to just ship them off to someone else.

    The thing to do is fund pesronel needed to go through the cases and grant asylum to those that qualify and to deport those that don't.

    But a wise government should allow those that are here to report abuses and violent crimes and organizations.
     
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    Rhetorical question - because the answer is obvious* - but why is the governor of Florida paying for asylum seekers to be transported to California from Texas?

    What jurisdiction does DeSantis have?

    If DeSantis wasn't running for President, would he have done this **?

    * because he's running for president

    ** no
     
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    No - the whole point is not to burden local police with doing ICE's job.

    you are entitled to your opinion
     
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    Going to point out that states and local authorities cannot deport people. That is a function of the Federal government which Constitutionally is empowered to deal with issues of the border and immigration.

    What states and local authorities can do is cooperate with federal authorities by reporting people suspected of not being here legally. The concept of “Sancturary City” is that the local
    Authorities don’t cooperate either Federal authorities. It has nothing to with an obligation to feed or house anyone. They can still arrest and jail people for violations of local crimes.
     
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    Also many local PD’s support the idea of being sanctuary cities because it’s more likely to lead to immigrant communities cooperating with LE on other crimes. Also many localities doesn’t have a lot of resources to be trying to find people here illegally.
     
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    Yeah, we KNOW. :rolleyes:
     
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    It's the federal government's job to manage immigration, so I think it's in their remit.

    It was the DeSantis Admin promising housing and jobs to those migrants. So, why would you focus on what Newsom has said?
     

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