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What it means to be “woke”

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by durvasa, Apr 19, 2022.

  1. tinman

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    He’s woke
    Probably a Jeremy Lin fan
     
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    Unfortunately the website never recognized my two donations so I've never donated again.

    If you say so. Seems like you've retained the hatred, judgement, and distrust for others from Catholicism with your constant pandering to "family values".
     
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    What's wrong with family values?

    If I remember correctly, you mentioned that you had some hardcore extremist Christian relatives (and I have seen what that means in Texas), so I would give you a pass on any disdain of Christianity, based on that.
     
  4. tinman

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    Jeremy lin fans make brainless assumptions
    Like the ball is going in the basket when he shoots

    woke=lin fan
     
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    Better than you pedos who obsess over children's genitalia.

    Better than you anti woke.

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  6. tinman

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    Lin fans are trash
     
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    Define "family values"...... it's always code for something.

    Not just my family......

    But it ain't the Muslims in the US that are trying to combine church and state..... Ain't the Muslims passing "family value" laws in the US...... I don't want the US version of Saudi Arabia or Iran so what is there to like about this Christian nationalism movement?
     
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    I just assume if we never hear from you on CF it's because you've been arrested for child p*rn.
     
  9. tinman

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    Christian extremist
     
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    How many pedos in this anti woke picture?

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    Family Values! I assume you are regular judge for child pageants.

     
  12. tinman

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    Woke
    @Salvy
     
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    Now that you mention it, ClutchFans' logo is looking strangely normal today....

    Lol, conservatives suddenly don't like capitalism anymore. The ultimate take-your-ball-and-go-home-when-you're-losing.
     
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    How would you arrive at that conclusion?

    Capitalism includes the freedom to choose.

    Quite different from, you know, Cuba, Venezuela and other failed socialist experiments.
     
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    These companies like BlackRock take major ownership stakes in these companies, and allegedly use their power from owning these companies to make them do woke things. And now the anti-woke folks say it isn't fair when owners do what they want with the businesses they own?

    ESG is the anti-socialist answer to how to use for-profit companies to achieve socially-responsible goals. It had been that operating companies had a fiduciary duty to their shareholders to maximize profits, and Boards would remove CEOs who let anything get in the way, lest the shareholders had them removed. So now we've used the existing corporate structure using shareholder votes to install Board Directors who would assign other goals in addition to maximizing profits. It's all been done in a proper and orderly way, reflecting the will of the shareholders according to their relative weights, and often in service of the long-term de-Tockevillian self-interest-properly-understood of the company. Very private-property conservative in that regard. But, when it means that a company is going to pursue a goal conservatives otherwise don't like, like diversity or environmental stewardship, the respect for its' owners' property right to do with their company as they please suddenly goes out the window. For them, maximizing short-term profits is the only goal they want a Board to be allowed to require of their company. But why should owners be so limited on what they do with their companies. If you don't like ESG, you don't like capitalism. And, in fact, you undermine the capacity and reputation of free markets to solve social problems by putting the clamp down when it starts headed in a direction you don't like. Allow the market to operate and the feedback loop will guide ESG to the optimal, economically efficient outcome.
     
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    None of those are real socialists because it's impossible, you always have one dude or party who gets all the money and control.
    and everybody else lives like rats.

    Scarface - First you get the money, then you get the power
     
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    ESG doesn't work in NBA basketball

    Remember when all the socialist stupid jeremy lin fans joined and said he was the same or better than Harden?
    Harden was clearly better and socialism and having a token player of another ethnicity doesn't work

    It only works based on merit and skill, look at Yao, that dude was good regardless of race or lunatic fans

    @Os Trigonum
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    NBA might be a good example. Sterling infamously ordered his team to maximize his short-term profits. It pissed off his customers, but ultimately we recognize it was his team and his right to run it the way he wanted. And it was up to the Clippers fan whether or not they wanted to be a sucker to cheer for a team that would never win. Then Ballmer buys the team and he says the mission of the team is to win, not to maximize profits, and he's willing to spend. It was the value-maximizing decision in the long term because profits and valuation went up. That was his self-interest-properly-understood, but a focus on winning is the ESG of NBA basketball.
     
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    If I owned an NBA Team, I'll keep the cheerleaders and power dancers hot, not fat ones or dudes
    @Jontro
     
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    none of what you just posted makes any sense whatsoever
     

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