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transgendering the kids

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Sep 21, 2022.

  1. davidio840

    davidio840 Member

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    No. I expressed a fact that allowing a 10 year old to change their sexual orientation is child abuse. Can you read? I really don't understand what you don't understand about my post. Nowhere did I say it is bad for everyone. In fact, if you read the first paragraph, I specifically state "good for you" if you do that as an ADULT.

    Man you really need to go outside and breathe or something.. your head is spinning out of control.
     
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  2. fchowd0311

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    I understand that you believe it's a fact that allowing kids to start transitioning before becoming an adult to you is child abuse.

    You've state this exact premise in 5 different ways.

    But what you haven't done yet is walk me through how you got to that premise.

    I know what you believe. Stop restating what you believe. I want you to explain how you got to what you believe.
     
  3. davidio840

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    Cool story bro. How about you explain like a grown up what I stated and how I deflected? You are clearly incoherent and likely a troll. Again, if you can't understand basic English, don't bother responding.
     
  4. Xopher

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    Just keep waiting. He'll go find a video that tells him how he got to the premise.
     
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  5. fchowd0311

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    That's what I've noticed with posters like him or ATW. They can't explain concepts, logical reasonings in their own words.

    And I already know what they are going to respond with:

    Lol I work for a living I don't got time to explain myself.

    Ya but they got time to religiously scroll your news feed about every trans story in existence and spread it on a NBA team fan message board. They got plenty of time.
     
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  6. Xopher

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    My post was about how your kid would not talk to you about gender dysphoria. Never once did I say how you should address that or what if any prospective treatment should be undertaken. Your kid sees you ranting about the trannies and knows they can't have a conversation if they were to have gender dysphoria.
     
  7. davidio840

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    It's called the age of reason. You know, kind of like a rating in a movie. Do you let a 7 year old watch rated R movies? I mean the fact that something as simple as common sense is failing to apply here is concerning to say the least.
     
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  8. davidio840

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    Oh look, deflecting again. You are really making some progress on your low level IQ! I am so proud of you!
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    Common sense usually can be expressed really easily through text. If this is common sense you can patronize me with the obvious reasoning behind your premise that it's child abuse for someone under 18 to start the transitioning process.

    Make fun of me. Show me how simple the reasoning is where I should be ashamed that my leftist blue haired brain cannot conjure the reasoning myself where I need a common sense man to show me
     
  10. Xopher

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    Do you have any clue how many 7-12 year olds I saw watching Deadpool in the theaters? How many kids dressed as him for Halloween? How many Deadpool t-shirts were marketed to children?
     
  11. davidio840

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    Did you bother clicking the spoiler above in my post? It's blatantly in front of you.
     
  12. Nook

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    This. It is a very complicated and multi-facet issue. Anyone that acts like it is an easy call is either poorly informed or not being objective.

    Taking drugs to stifle puberty or to change the hormonal balance in the body of a 10-18 year old is a MAJOR and big deal. There are many side effects that one side glazes over. Likewise, having top surgery is also a big deal, and it is often over-looked. Obviously bottom surgery is an excruciating surgery, and not like standard plastic surgery.

    On the other hand, there are some that believe that transgenderism isn't even real and seek to force adolescents and young adults into the dark ages, where they cannot go to school as the gender they identify with or discuss with anyone in school how they feel. This is terribly wrong and is not in the best interest of these kids. Children live in society, school in part teaches them how to be adults. Gay people, transgendered people and non-binary people exist in society and are numerous enough that we see them all the time. There is no reason that children should be taught these groups of people are a taboo subject or wrong or bad people. We have enough negativity in the world already.

    I personally am against bottom surgery and top surgery for minors at this point, but if a lot of studies and data comes out supporting it over waiting until children are 18; I will reconsider my position.

    What I do know is that there are a lot of people exploiting the situation and issue.
     
  13. davidio840

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    Nope, and I don't care. There are guidelines in place and you don't have to agree with all of them. However, there are also laws (read the spoiler above) and if you want to leave it a judge to determine your 7-12 year old is a transgender because he or she has a brother or sister and partakes in playing with one or the others toys, more power to you. Just don't be mad when you force them to be a transgender and later in life they despise you for it.

    You can argue one way or the other all day. You won't know what will come of it until they are fully developed into who they want to be. A young child doesn't know that unless the parent forces it on them at an early age. Like I have stated repeatedly, if late teen or adult wants to be a different sex, more power to them. It's their life. Don't force it on children.
     
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  14. fchowd0311

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    The framing of this is just...


    Man I am disappointed man.

    No one besides right wing terminally online edgelords believe this is the case. Pretty much every instance of a child taking something like puberty blockers came after careful consideration and wasn't just prescribed willy nilly.

    So yes, it is a big deal and yes the people who administer the treatments UNDERSTAND it's a big deal and will do several months to years of examination and testing to confirm that this is really the best course.


    The bigotry is the right wing claiming none of these checks exist and it's just blue haired moms going to the nearest gender clinic to get a new toy to show off to friends with their new trans child.
     
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    The onion sucks now, but that link is from 2001.
     
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    Again. Deflect. You are the one who asked the question about letting children see R rated movies. Then you go off on a unrelated diatribe. I think your short term memory resets between your posts.
     
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  17. fchowd0311

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    You copy and pasted the legal definition of abuse.

    You haven't once explained the logic and reasoning that got you to the premise that transitioning minors = child abuse.


    So walk me through how you concluded that someone under 18 starting the transitioning process is "child abuse".

    I'm sincerely trying to be as clear with my diction as possible so I can be explicitly clear what I'm asking. Do you understand what I'm asking?
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    He might not have object permanence yet developed.
     
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    I agree that it used to be MUCH better.
     
  20. AroundTheWorld

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    Just a reminder that the extreme fringe lunatics like fchowd and xopher post a lot here, but represent a tiny percentage of the population.
     
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