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Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. HardenReturns

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    Ahhh... At last a spark of intelligence.

    Can't say the same for this idiot. if only we could educate him, maybe we could get him up to Koko the gorilla's level of intellect.
     
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  2. ApacheWarrior

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    Keep talking....48.6% from 3 tonight
     
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    I wish you guys could just get along. Peace & love
     
  4. AlperenSengun

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    Denver's plan is not to be the best defensive team. Their plan is to outscore the other team. Jokic did his part. Murray scored 18, MPJ had 5 points. And you think problem is Jokic!!!

    Also Miami shot 43.3% from 3 against Boston, so far 30/74=40.5% in this series.
     
  5. Verbal Christ

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    How long has Jokic been in the league? How long since his 'break out' season? When was the last time a post-centric team won the ring? Look up the definition for outlier. You guys are focusing on the players. I dont care who the star is for any team I've told you and the other Sengun/Jokic/Nostalgia Lovers its not about the player, but the PHILOSOPHY!! Teams that dont focus on defense and 3 point shooting wont go anywhere in todays NBA. Denver lost last night to a team of glue players while Jokic went for 40+ in his typical dominating fashion. I'll give you ONE CHANCE to guess why the Heat won. If you cant read between the lines Im not sure why you keep responding? Im not the one who's making illogical assumptions based on a post hoc fallacy between Jokic and Sengun. In terms of excuse making and "cant be proven wrong" the warlocks in here reading crystal balls about Senguns future and answering the "why Jokic failed" questions seem to have that under control.
     
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  6. Verbal Christ

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    Outscore the other team as one of the slowest paced teams in the NBA? LOL OK!
     
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  7. Bo6

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    are we just going to ignore that Denver steamrolled through 3 different Western Conference playoff teams?
     
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  8. ApacheWarrior

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    Good defense beats good offense is the saying here in America

    You were not here when Steph Curry shot 64% from 3 in the playoffs
    from the left corner. The internet question was which is better
    Curry 3's or LeBron dunks?

    If Curry shot 64% from 3 while LeBron shot 99% from dunks (2's)
    They were equal in approximately the same shot attempts.

    So LeBron or in this case Jokic will not shoot 100% of his
    mid range and The Heat won't shoot 64% from 3.......but if the
    Heat shoot 45% to 50%.....it's over.

    I brought up last game that the Heat shot 24% in the first half
    of game 1.....over 40% in the second half. Its easy to see
    that the Heat understand the Nuggets weakness is defending
    the 3 because of Jokic Drop Coverage. You are basically asking
    3 players to cover the entire 3-point perimeter. It's too much
    to ask.

    As I mentioned @Verbal Christ NBA decent 3-point shooters can
    shoot 60% from 3 in shoot-a-round (practice) or left open during the
    game. The corner 3 was open all day in game 1......and Miami took
    advantage early in game 2.

    This series is over......you just don't know it.

    I understand your love for Sengun (Jokic) but I want you to know
    I don't hate Sengun.....just don't see how the math works for championship
    success? The team with the Great Almighty Wonderful Wizard Nuggets
    had 23 assists......while the team without the Great Almighty Wonderful
    Wizard Heat had 28 assists. Why because the NBA is turning to sharing
    the ball throughout the team.....and not sticking in one person's
    hands. Sengun like Jokic will give your team sticky fingers and
    fall in love with just that one person getting/doing all the assists.
    It's Fools Gold.

    3's > 2's.....Jokic can score 58 in one on one defense as long as
    the Heat cover the rest of the Nuggets team. Jokic is going to
    have to go Hero-Ball and get David Robinson 70 points.
    Jokic equals open 3's for Miami.
     
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  9. Verbal Christ

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    I agree with the premise. I dont think the series is over. Whichever team capitalizes on their 3pt shooting in each game will dictate the outcome. Miami shot lights out last night - I dont think near 50% 3pt shooting is sustainable, but we'll see. Denver shot it at a respectable 39% clip last night, but fell a few shots short. Jokic did his thing. DEN was sloppy guarding shooters. Im thinking this thing goes 7 and DEN wins via attrition.
     
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    Crickets
     
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    LOL @ Sengun haters celebrating a Denver playoff loss - in which the player of Sengun's "archetype" scored 41 points.

    Basketball is a team game. If Michael Porter Jr. and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope both suck badly in the same game, while playing heavy minutes, it's going to be hard to win. Just like it was hard to win for Miami when Strus went 0-10 or whatever it was.

    It's a good series, with two good teams, and two great star performers. Jokic and Butler would both deserve a ring.
     
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    LOL, Denver has the historically good offense and best with jokic on the floor.

    I am guessing the answer is not MPJ scoring 5 points on 1/6 in 3s. Or KCP committing dumb fouls in the fourth.

    Miami scores excellent 48% on 3s and barely wins due to dumb fouls by KCP and terrible shooting by MPJ and you blame jokic and think that his game is not enough. Congrats.
     
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    Before the series I told you Kevin Love would play a factor.
    Couldn't play him vs Boston because they are so fast and can
    go small with Robert Williams. Now Love can play because
    Jokic gives you drop coverage and Kevin Love gives you
    3-point shooting.....in essence 5-men out (with Bam on this bench).
    That kills the Nuggets drop coverage because 2 to 3 players
    defend the paint leaving 2 to 3 to defend the perimeter.

    That's too much space to cover. Boston can take out Horford
    but the Nuggets won't take out Jokic. Are you kidding me....he
    is MVP material.....and their Achilles Heel (defensively).

    Can we all agree role players play better at home? Miami
    role players will be more confident at home while the Nuggets
    role players will not do so well on the road.

    Which leads to Braun. Before the series I had the Nuggets
    8 deep if you add Reggie Jackson who never plays (not sure
    if he is injured?)......well Braun played out of his mind last night
    and kept things closer than it should have been. We'll see if
    the Braun, Bruce Brown and KCP do in Miami. KCP usually
    fades on the road.

    Before the series I had the Heat 10 deep when Herro comes back.
    He should be back next game..... probably rusty but the rest of the
    team will be motivated by his return. It should be a feeding frenzy
    from 3 in those 3 straight Miami games. I didn't post it but I felt
    Miami would average 7 points per game for the series victory.
    7 points is not much but when you win 4 games to 1 or 2 it
    doesn't matter. 7 points spread is huge in an NBA finals actually.

    P.S. I also said that Miami would get the split in games 1 & 2.....now off to Miami
     
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  14. Verbal Christ

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    Jokic has plenty of monster games that result in losses - do they all come with excuses too or nah? You coaches and GMs are making my point(s) for me during your fist shaking.
     
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    Love is a great vet. He makes the smart plays and contributes when necessary. If we're going to play the 'pat my back' game I think I told you how much of an X FActor Bam needed to be in order to give MIA a shot and how the 3 ball percentages should come back down to Earth and they did Game 1. MIA locked in last night and maximized their shots. 17/45 is not sustainable in my opinion, but lets see. Its OK to modify a view as the outcomes change - lets not forget you also said MIA could sweep or win 4-1. This series looks primed to go 7.
     
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    You are not getting it

    Jokic had 41 points and was -11 (+/-)

    Miami is forcing Jokic to be a scorer and taking away the getting everyone involved
    aspect of it. Guys are out of rhythm as a result. People talking like Denver is
    this great offense that scores 140 points a night.....where is that?

    They've scored 104 and 108. Heat had the 4th most injures during the
    season. This is where your mind can't get over Denver losing to the Heat.
    The Heat regular season means nothing. Its a whole new ball game now.

    As one of these national shows said.....Miami is the Warriors of the East.
    And the Nuggets wanted no part of the Warriors.
     
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    Miami has to get acclimated to the altitude. Game 1 (1st half) 24%....(2nd half) over 40%

    Miami is doing it with open 3's. Denver is working for theirs for the most part.

    Kevin Love touchdown passes puts so much pressure on the defense
    of the Nuggets. You'll see.
     
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    OK I'll see. :D
     
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    Lol. Apache was a ghost after game 1 and now he’s coming in with the BS.
    Miami barely won a game where they shot almost 50% from 3 and MPJ had 5 points.

    Good luck maintaining that.
     

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