All of Amen Thompson’s makes and misses from 3 at OTE

man reeko REALLY doesn't want amen lol. man out here leading a whole anti-amen campaign by himself. getting close to bobby tier.

 

I don't think you can say Whitmore has Amen's level of ceiling for two reasons. One, his athleticism is not all-quadrants the way Amen's is. Whitmore has comparable straight-line athleticism and almost as much verticality, but he doesn't have the same kind of agility or body control. He is not a smooth, fluid athlete the same way Amen is. Two, just going to mention once again, less than one assist per game. You're never going to see Whitmore average 4 or 5 assists in the NBA, let alone 8-10+ like Amen could manage. And if Amen's handle is inconsistent, Whitmore's is downright bad.

If you're high on Whitmore, maybe you think he works his way into something close to Jaylen Brown. ~25 points per game on decent efficiency, 6 or 7 rebounds, second option on a contending team. That's definitely a lower ceiling than Amen's "if everything maximizes", which would be like MVP-contending, 25+ point triple double machine kind of potential.

Something about Cam's game just bothers me though when I watch the tape. He just looks hesitant. He doesn't have the same kind of confident decisiveness and high feel that Amen does. It really makes me worry that Cam will disappoint a lot of people and end up being more like KJ Martin. And, well, we already have a KJ Martin, and might trade him just to make room on the roster before he has to be extended.

 

If you look at the video you can also see nobody closes out on Amen's shots not only are his defenders so much smaller than him they dotn even close out and watch him shoot most of the time.

That's why it's crazy to me people take Amen over Ausar and Brandon Miller makes zero sense.

 

I bet Cam would look plenty confident if he was playing against people 4 years younger than himself.

And even if it's true that Cam has a lower ceiling (which I'm not convinced is true), I would argue that it's far more likely that Cam reaches his ceiling than Amen does. I think that should be considered too.

 

I ran out of coffee creamer. I'll catch you haters later.

 

I wouldn't want either of the Thompsons at 20.

6'7 Giannis isn't an NBA player.

On top of that, the team desperately needs shooting... there's some questions about Whitmore and Walker shooting the ball, but Whitmore matched Tari Eason's 3 point shooting last season and Walker beat it.... and Tari was our second best 3 point shooter last season.

 

This is incomplete half-court data.

I believe this is the full half-court data set:


Both Ausar and Amen had problems finishing, though I think Amen did a better job of improving his finishing as the season went on (Ausar's numbers were still around 40% IIRC for half-court layups). There are minor concerns about whether each avoids contact and the spin/angle they use, but I think most experts think both will be excellent finishers in the NBA.

 

4th pick was really a disaster for this team. Never wanted either of the twins from day 1 and still don't

still hoping they trade it. best thing to do by far

 

I, for one, appreciate all of the information I can get.

 

I'm pretty anti-Miller. I want Amen a million times over him....but if we draft him I'll look forward to him as a satellite to Sengun. Some posters absolute hatred of kids is so wild to me. We still have posters 2 years later ******** on Green lol.

If Ausar can fix his shot so can his brother. Ausar had to because he had no choice.

 

By "hate" you merely mean "criticize".

Normal people criticize bad players for playing poorly rather than praising players for playing poorly. It's not "hate"....people criticize underperforming players like Green or bad prospects like Amen for the same reason they criticize bad players like Nix.

 

I keep seeing people say his passing can be worked on. I'd say it is more feel than passing, but regardless of those semantics, are we sure this is true?

From Spinella's write-up on Cam:

Now I have Cam 2nd after Amen in my board (assuming Scoot and Miller go 2 and 3...though I have Amen and Cam over Miller). So I'm happy to ignore this too and just see what happens with him.

Nevertheless, I find it odd how many people think Amen/Ausar will *never* be able to shoot (a skill that is maybe the easiest to develop, and there are multiple examples of this being true), but Cam will easily be able to develop his feel/passing skills (with no examples that this can be done so easily). Cam has a lot of unique circumstances around him that might make this much more possible, but I'm not sure I'm more optimistic about this than Amen's shooting.

Sorry, not really picking on you specifically, but just speaking to some of the discussion around Cam in general. This is definitely a legit concern and not something that should be handwaved away.

 

The Synergy data for OTE is not good and I would not trust it

 

Still probably more trustworthy than an Amen Thompson jumpshot though.

 

I see a little bit, but I see a lot of Miles Bridges. He’s like a clone of him

 

I agree, but was good on C&S 3s. Hendricks is my guy too and I would love him, but there’s no star upside with him. I would love his fit defensively and his floor spacing. We need that so bad. I’m torn lol

 

I think he will be the version of Russell Westbrook we’ve seen recently, but a worse shooter. He has more defensive upside. He can also just that can’t make his way in the rotation. I think OTE was a huge mistake for them

 

Its a conundrum. We've stocked the pond with guys who need the ball in their hands to be the best versions of themselves. Adding another guy to that dynamic means the ball would be spread thin. I REALLY like Cam. I've been watching him for a while and was red hot on him prior to his college season. He battled some nagging injuries this year and never really popped like I thought he would. Still a ton to work with, but Im not sure our roster would offer him the best place to truly be himself and Im not sure he offers a "superstar" possibility more than the other guys we've drafted high. We are at the place where fit does have to be a factor.