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  1. Os Trigonum

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    excerpts in case you missed them:

    After a confidential human source claimed then-Vice President Joe Biden agreed to accept money from a foreign national to affect policy decisions, FBI agents used what’s called an FD-1023 form to record the allegation. Now FBI Director Christopher Wray is defying a May 3 congressional subpoena to provide this form. On Tuesday, in response to Wray’s refusal to hand over the documents, Oversight and Accountability Committee Chair James Comer announced the House will move to hold the FBI director in contempt of Congress.

    It isn’t that announcement — or even the other explosive ones released over the past year by Comer’s Senate colleague, Chuck Grassley — that prove the most telling, however. Rather, it is the combination of all the details, big and small, that suggests the scandal set to unfold over the coming weeks will be bigger than anyone imagined.

    The Dirt Is in the Details
    Take recent big news from whistleblower disclosures revealing that the Justice Department and the FBI have the unclassified FD-1023 form spelling out Biden’s alleged criminal behavior. Then combine that with other known information to discover the bigger picture.

    For instance, in response to Wray’s failure to comply with the subpoena, Grassley, who had previously noted the FD-1023 form was five or six pages long, indicated that the confidential human source (CHS) was “an apparent trusted FBI source.” This is huge because Grassley wouldn’t make that claim unless the whistleblower had. That means the source is not some random guy walking in off the street, but rather an existing “trusted” CHS, which is why the FBI used the FD-1023 form.

    In response to Wray’s stonewalling, Comer likewise revealed some significant details, clarifying late last week that the CHS reporting document was dated June 30, 2020, and referenced “the amount of money the foreign national allegedly paid to receive the desired policy outcome” as “five million.” These details could only have come from a whistleblower with deep knowledge of the investigation, meaning the whistleblower’s characterization of the CHS as “trusted” carries more weight. Likewise, the whistleblower’s claim that the FD-1023 “includes a precise description of how the alleged criminal scheme was employed as well as its purpose,” is more credible given the whistleblower’s knowledge of other details.

    Comer’s reference to “five million” is also intriguing. In a letter to Wray, Attorney General Merrick Garland, and Delaware U.S. Attorney David Weiss, Grassley had previously revealed a promise by a Chinese communist government-connected enterprise to funnel $5 million to “Hunter and James Biden to compensate them for work done while Joe Biden was vice president.” Records released by Grassley and Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., also confirmed a $5 million payment to James and Hunter Biden from another Chinese-connected business.

    The date of the FD-1023 form, June 30, 2020, also proves significant when read in conjunction with Grassley’s letter to Wray in July 2022. In that letter, Grassley said the whistleblower had claimed that “the FBI developed information in 2020 about Hunter Biden’s criminal financial and related activity,” but “that in August 2020, FBI Supervisory Intelligence Analyst Brian Auten opened an assessment which was used by a FBI Headquarters (‘FBI HQ’) team to improperly discredit negative Hunter Biden information as disinformation and caused investigative activity to cease.”

    The whistleblower further alleged that in September 2020, the FBI HQ team that handled the Auten assessment, after concluding the reporting was disinformation, placed the information in a restricted access sub-file that only the particular agents who uncovered the CHS’s information could access.

    Several points merit mention here: First, Auten is the same agent responsible for some of the shenanigans in Crossfire Hurricane. Second, Grassley’s letter indicates Auten did not open the “assessment” on Hunter Biden or other members of the Biden family. The senator’s correspondence actually suggests the assessment may have been opened on the CHS.

    Here’s the relevant language:

    The basis for how the FBI HQ team selected the specific information for inclusion in Auten’s assessment is unknown, but in more than one instance the focus of the FBI HQ team’s attention involved derogatory information about Hunter Biden.

    The whistleblower also reportedly told Grassley that FBI HQ later closed sources after branding their info as disinformation. Given the timing of the assessment (August 2020) and the date of the CHS report (June 2020), it seems likely the FBI used the CHS report as part of the “assessment” and that the “assessment” was of the CHS.

    This leads to the next significant point: According to the whistleblower, Auten’s assessment led to the “improper discrediting” of the verified and verifiable derogatory information about Hunter Biden. Worse, based on several hints dropped by Grassley over the last year, FBI headquarters conducted little to no investigation on the CHS and other derogatory info before labeling it “disinformation.”

    The timing of the CHS report in June 2020 also proves conveniently coincidental to the decision by Democrat Sens. Chuck Schumer and Mark Warner, then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and Rep. Adam Schiff to send a letter just two weeks later, on July 13, 2020, to the FBI claiming Congress was being subjected to a foreign disinformation campaign. On July 16, 2020, the then-ranking members of two congressional committees asked the FBI’s Foreign Influence Task Force — the same one that handled the “assessment” that branded the Hunter Biden intel as disinformation — to give the committees a defensive briefing. News of that “Russian disinformation” briefing soon leaked to the press.
    more at the linked article

     
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    They’ve got the b*stard now.
     
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    Yeah I'm sure a republican FBI director sure is carrying water for a democratic president. The director probably thinks the gop are ****ing crazy and I don't blame him. Qnon caucus
     
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    @Os Trigonum Hahahahahahahahahah this is why nobody should pay attention to your braindead conspiracies. You just claimed that the fbi is interfering for biden by not showing the documents. What happened now?



    You're nothing but a right troll who's a useful idiot for spinning right wing propoganda.
     
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  7. Os Trigonum

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    and you're consistent
     
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    Didn't you just claim fbi was interfering on the behalf of biden? What happened to your braindead conspiracy?

    Are you ever right about anything ?
     
  9. Os Trigonum

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    I'm not the story here
     
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    Again. Please elaborate how the fbi and cia are doing the bidding for biden and interfering? I'm sure you're just calling balls and strikes right?

    Of course you are. YOU formed a personal opinion
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Turley

    in November 2020, after the election, Turley appeared on Fox & Friends and claimed that election machines In Michigan had switched “thousands of votes“ from Donald Trump to Joe Biden, suggesting problems with the results. Fox host Steve Doocy quickly corrected Turley’s claim by responding, “I looked into it. With that Dominion software, five counties in Michigan and Georgia had problems. And the Dominion software was used in two of the counties and in every instance largely it was human error, a problem, but the software did not affect the vote counts.”
     
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/fbis-c...-probe-23a4f2fb?mod=lead_feature_below_a_pos1

    Republicans Probing Bidens Step Up Threats Against FBI Chief Christopher Wray
    Lawmakers reject bureau’s offer to let them see rather than hand over a document they seek
    By C. Ryan Barber
    and Sadie Gurman
    Updated May 31, 2023 at 9:47 pm ET

    WASHINGTON—Top Republican lawmakers on Wednesday escalated threats to hold FBI Director Christopher Wray in contempt over what they view as his stonewalling of a congressional investigation into the business dealings of President Biden and his family.

    Following a phone call with Wray, Rep. James Comer of Kentucky and Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa assailed the Federal Bureau of Investigation director for not turning over a document that the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed as part of its investigation into the Biden family’s business dealings. Comer, chairman of the House Oversight Committee, and other Republicans have said the FBI record contains allegations that President Biden engaged in a bribery scheme with a foreign national during his vice presidency.

    Wray offered to provide lawmakers a chance to view the information “in a secure manner to accommodate the committee while protecting the confidentiality and safety of sources and important investigative sensitivities,” the FBI said.

    “The FBI has continually demonstrated its commitment to working with the committee to accommodate its request,” the bureau said, adding that it would continue to cooperate.

    Comer said he was insisting that the bureau produce the document to the House committee.

    “We have been clear that anything short of producing these documents to the House Oversight Committee is not in compliance with the subpoena. If the FBI fails to hand over the FD-1023 form as required by the subpoena, the House Oversight Committee will begin contempt of Congress proceedings,” Comer said in a prepared statement.

    Grassley said the FBI was treating lawmakers “like second class citizens” by refusing to turn over the subpoenaed document.

    In response to the statements Wednesday, White House spokesman Ian Sams said, “This silly charade by Chairman Comer is yet another reminder that his so-called ‘investigations’ are political stunts not meant to get information but to spread thin innuendo and falsehoods to attack the president.”

    In a letter ahead of the planned call, a top FBI official told lawmakers that the bureau doesn’t generally share information from confidential human sources and noted that investigative reports, such as the one subpoenaed by the House Oversight Committee, “include leads and suspicions, not conclusions of investigators based on fuller context.”

    “Recording the information does not validate the information, establish its credibility, or weigh it against other information known or developed by the FBI,” wrote Christopher Dunham, an acting assistant FBI director.

    The FBI said it would cooperate with the committee and had committed to providing information responsive to the subpoena “in a format and setting that maintains confidentiality and protects important security interests and the integrity of FBI investigations.”

    Comer rejected a request from the committee’s top Democrat, Rep. Jamie Raskinof Maryland, to participate in Wednesday’s call. Raskin arranged a separate call with Wray.

    “It is increasingly clear that Committee Republicans have always planned to hold Director Wray in contempt of Congress to distract from the obvious fact that they do not have evidence to support their unfounded accusations against President Biden,” Raskin said in a statement after the call. “This latest political maneuver underscores Chairman Comer’s determination to use the Committee to help former President Trump’s reelection efforts and pander to extreme MAGA Republicans.”

    Comer and other top Republicans showed the preliminary findings of the House Oversight Committee’s investigation into the Biden family’s business dealings in early May. At a news conference on Capitol Hill, Republican lawmakers released financial records showing how the president’s son, Hunter Biden, and other relatives received more than $10 million from foreign sources between 2015 and 2017.

    Republicans pointed to the transactions as proof that the president’s family members traded on the Biden name. But after months of investigating and insinuating that the Biden family had engaged in criminal conduct, Comer didn’t identify a specific policy move Biden made in office that may have been influenced by the foreign payments. When asked to do so, Comer remarked on Biden traveling overseas as vice president and discussing foreign aid in the final year of the Obama administration.

    Like a previous memo issued in March, the report earlier in May didn’t identify any payments to President Biden, who has long denied playing any role in his family members’ business dealings.

    Comer released the report as he faced growing pressure from Republicans to show progress in his committee’s investigation into the Biden family. At the May 10 news conference, Comer said he was “very pleased” with the committee’s work so far and previewed what he called a “new phase that is armed with information” from the bank records.

    For Hunter Biden, the House inquiry represents only part of a broader swirl of scrutiny. The Justice Department is nearing a decision on whether to bring criminal charges against him in a yearslong investigation focused on his taxes and whether he made false statements in connection with a 2018 gun purchase, according to people familiar with the inquiry. The younger Biden has said he handled his affairs legally and appropriately.

    Appeared in the June 1, 2023, print edition as 'GOP Lawmakers Step Up Threats Against FBI Director'.



     
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    This morning- fbi is colluding with biden to hide his corruption ! They aren't handing over the documents!

    This evening - fbi isn't handing over the documents the way we want them. Bad fbi!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAH oh my
     
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    Request to change thread title to “Os and Astro talk to each other”.
     
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    Are you paying attention to the thread ? His conspiracies don't even hold up for 24 hours. How can you not laugh at his sad trolling.
     
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    Nope. Not paying attention. I'm just here to watch when you take a statement that is in 70% agreement with your posts and use it to question the knowledge, intelligence, and sincerity or allegiance of the poster.
     
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    @Os Trigonum is MAGA and we're in a battle for democracy. The MAGA movement wants to destroy America and were 2 years away from them possibly doing so. I have no sorrow for calling a spade a spade. If I bother you I apologize and you should put me on ignore. If I violate any rules I'm also sorry and the mod can ban me. I'll be okay
     
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    @FranchiseBlade is talking about @CCorn
     
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    You don't bother me. I just find it bizarre. I'm happy to watch bizarre.
     
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