#4 Pick Trade Packages

Well not everyone watching "Tape" as you say knows what the hell they are watching do they?

Not eating crow for voicing my opinion that we aren't moving up, and I think it is 50/50 we draft at 4 based upon the offers....just because I believe the org prefers to move down doesn't mean they will....not my first rodeo.

DD

 

I bet Kelly Iko Bashed the Rockets not getting Ben Simmons, Caris LeVert, Jarret Allen.

All are overpaid players that don't have certain Skills and are Injury prone.

Ben can't shoot and Caris can't stay healthy, Jarrett was a All Star but not a Franchise piece, expiring deal and was about to get a bigger Contract.

Rockets got the best deal in the Nets and Those Draft Picks. Tari Eason is a Core Piece.

 

I'm not sure that's enough for the blazers. They'd be giving up quite a bit to only get Derozan in return who is an older player doesn't put them anywhere near contention. a Lillard/Derozan led team doesn't really move the needle and you'd be giving up two of your top young assets in whoever you would get at three and Sharpe.

 

Yeah, it is a wasted opportunity for the Blazers to really rebuild.

 

I think that Bridges for #3 eventually gets done. It just makes too much sense

 

Blazers 'Willing' to Trade No. 3 NBA Draft Pick for 'Pretty Elite Player'
Narrator: There are no “pretty elite player(s)” available.
Same problem for the Rockets and Pistons.

Blazers trade #3 pick for OG Anunoby. Yeah, they’re really cookin’ with fire! 33 wins —> 40 wins!

Spoiler

I’m trading the 3rd/4th/5th pick for…OG Anunoby? Pascal Siakam? Bridges? LaVine?
(In Kelly Iko’s world, Cam Johnson, Keldon Johnson, John Collins, Myles Turner, Jordan Poole)

 

Charlotte gets: Jalen Green & 20 (drafts Scoot at 2 )

Rockets : Lamelo & 27 ( Drafts Whitmore at 4?)


Who says no?

 

I’m thinking #4 to Indiana for Nembhard and #7. I’d also be willing to do the same deal for TJ McConnell. Then use #7 on Anthony Black.

 

I do not think any of the team are going to draft out of the top 5. The top 5 players can be multi ALL STAR players

 

I'd consider for Turner and 7.


Black
Green
Eason
Jabari
Turner

is a very balanced team. Would really need Green to grow into a superstar though.

 

I like Bridges as much as the next guy but the Nets are pretending he is Jokic or something? This nets have some unrealistic expectations of value in return. You can potentially get Scoot, Simons and another 1st and you say no? Marks has lost the plot

 

All I want out of this draft is height, shooting and defense. I'd be pretty happy with Brandon Miller and Derek Lively II.

PG - Harden (6-5) / Washington (6-4)
SG - Green (6-4) / Porter (6-5) / Christopher (6-5)
SF - Martin (6-7) / Miller (6-9) / Tate (6-4)
PF - Smith (6-11) / Eason (6-8) / Garuba (6-8)
..C - Sengun (6-11) / Lively (7-1)

You want to go big you play:

PG - Harden (6-5)
SG - Miller (6-9)
SF - Smith (6-11)
PF - Sengun (6-11)
..C - Lively (7-1)

 

A trade of the #4 pick is very very unlikely to happen. It becomes clear if you look at the landscape of available players, and the recent noises from the beat writers suggest that’s what they’re hearing from the organization as well (Iko’s monstrosity of a column is an example).

IMO, as of today, there’s only 2 players in the NBA who are both worth the #4 pick and who have a non trivial chance of being available in a trade this summer. Bridges and Jaylen.

Siakam, Anunoby, Turner, KAT, DeRozan, Dejounte etc.. None of these players are worth the #4 pick in a good draft, considering contract situation.

Stone has always been a deal guy. He seems mediocre at a bunch of other GM stuff, but when it comes to contract negotiations and trades he’s going to get value or not do anything at all. That’s what he’s said in interviews, that’s his background, and that’s what beat writers have said.

We all know Mikal and Jaylen’s situation; it’s not impossible they become available, but unlikely, and even if they become available the Blazers are the clear favorites to get either (they have more urgency, the higher pick, and better salary matching).

I’d put the odds of us trading #4 at ~10% max. Probably less. So so many unlikely things would need to happen.

 

They're afraid of having to rebuild after trading all their stars and not having their own picks. They want to be able to sell their fans that they're "re-tooling".

That's why I want the rockets to go after Cam Johnson and be willing to overpay. Make the nets feel like they're backed into a corner because they can't compete. So, either they trade us Bridges for their picks back or trade him somewhere else for young prospects (making the nets picks better anyway).

 

I tend to agree that Derozan isn't a needle mover for them and that they need more return for their assets .... also think whoever they get needs to play the 3 or 4 spot.

Who is out there that is a needle mover at those positions .... that might be available??

 

The question is how committed they are to running it back with Dame and actually trying to contend. They sound all-in, but of course they have to say that, unless they plan to trade him immediately. If it's actually true that they want to be competitive, they basically have to make a move.

But it's also possible they're just making polite noises and are not actually that willing to trade the #3 pick unless they get an excellent value. They may think they can get more value at the trade deadline by holding onto Lillard until then.