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Is China invading Taiwan inevitable and what will US defend it??

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by saitou, May 26, 2022.

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Will China invade Taiwan?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    38.7%
  1. dmoneybangbang

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    Your neighbors want to contain you as they don't like your aggression.

    When you strongest ally might be Russia...... I can see why you'd say that.
     
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    There is no incentive for it to become more democratic when they have the power and tech to keep it from being that way. Why share power when you do not have to?
     
  4. basso

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    what's your point.
     
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    insofar as a territorial dispute in the pacific, a precedence had been set, in the 1970s -80s, the US was ok w the stronger military (japan) bullying the weaker one (taiwan)
     
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    as it relates to the territorial dispute over DaiYu island, a precedence had been set, in the 1970s -80s, the US was ok w the stronger military (japan) bullying the weaker one (taiwan)

    back in the 70s/80s, PRC was in a transition phase, not economically/militarily strong enough to get involved in the dispute. In the 20th century, the bully was Japan
     
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    And in the 21st century, China is the bully.
     
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    Taiwan was Japanese, before WW2. I have a friend, ethic Chinese, who was born in Taiwan during the Japanese occupation. he has no love for China (is MAGA, actually), but is largely ambivalent towards Japan.
     
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    Their belt and road is collapsing fast
     
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    Actually, US conglomerates using Mexico as a mfg hub pre-dated them using China by 55 year

    The maquiladora program allows companies that are moving manufacturing to Mexico to temporarily import materials, tools, and equipment with a 16 percent value-added tax exemption, as long as
    the final products are exported back to the U.S.​
     
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    I can't watch the video right now but I'm not surprised. The updated NAFTA that passed under the Trump admin. and the COVID were huge boons to Mexican manufacturing. Showing the fragility of PRC and overseas based supply chains made Mexico more attractive along with terms in the trade agreement that benefitted North America (not just the US) in the USMCA.
     
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    wrong

    Japan occupied Mongolia/Korea/Taiwan/Singapore/ China as part of its Pan-Asian strategy between the Meiji Restoration and Japan's expansion during World War II.
    The policy's major aim was to conquer Japan's neighboring countries to dominate East Asia.

    Putin/Russia has been following Japan's play book, as it relates the Crimea / Ukraine


    i have a relative who was born in Taiwan during the Japanese occupation. he considers himself Chinese.
    his hate for the PRC and Japan is only exceeded by his hate for MAGA
     
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    you link. a reporting on events taking place in 2020, is out of context,

    the DiaoYu Island dispute originated in the early 1970s.

    there were protests in Hong Kong, Taiwan and various US and UK cities against the bully Japan.
    Japan's economy was the world's second largest (behind the US) from 1968 until 2010
    the PRC was too weak, politically/economically/militarily, to do anything about it.


    some 50 years later
    , after China has ascended to be the #2 economy in the world, coupled w a much stronger military, the PRC is asserting its bullyness.
     
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    Taiwan was part of the Empire Japan between World Wars. Like in Korea the Japanese imposed their culture on the Taiwanese and many Taiwanese went to Japanese schools and even fought for Japan in WWII. Also many Taiwanese women were forced to be Comfort Women and the Japanese were also harsh to indigenous Taiwanese.

    The view of Japan in Taiwan is complex because there were some older Taiwanese who accepted Japan and their culture. When the KMT government fled to Japan many of those were anti-Japanese because they had fought Japan in China during WWII. Since the 1980's when Taiwan's democracy has opened up pro-Japanese were thrown around as political accusations by various parties. Former KMT president Lee-Tung Hui was accused by more pro-PRC people as being pro-Japanese as members of his family were Japanese.

    On the issue of the Daio Yu Tai Islands that's been a sore point since the US handed them to Japan in the late 60's. Members of my family were involved in protests over them back then and the issue has cropped up several times since then. My understanding is that most people in Taiwan and the PRC believe those islands belong to China. They don't agree though whether that means the PRC or the ROC but that they aren't Japanese.
     
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    China invading Taiwan inevitable?

    if nothing else, to divert public attention away from this harsh reality


    China suspends youth unemployment data after record high


    In June, The unemployment rate among 16- to 24-year-olds in urban areas hit 21.3 percent, a record, and has risen every month this year
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    China has a long term goal of reunification with Taiwan since …….. at least 1978.
     
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