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Chapter 6: Green & Redemption

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mathloom, Apr 5, 2023.

  1. TriumVirate

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    Can you explain why he is objectively terrible? He is literally on pace with Devin Booker while being in a worse situation. This guy had Silas coaching him while not playing alongside a legitimate PG.
     
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    Has anyone seen jalen green go to the floor for a loose ball for the entire 2 years he’s been here ?
     
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  5. Bobbythegreat

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    He's bad on both sides of the ball.

    On offense he's a poor shooter which is part of why his TS% is so low and why he's not really very good off ball.

    On ball, he has speed and springs but no real bag and his handle is weak... which means he's really only effective in transition or when defenses aren't set. Other than that he just puts his head down and prays he gets bailed out with a whistle.... so he's really not very effective on ball either.

    What I've described is by far the best part of his game.

    On defense, he is one of the worst in the league, he has almost no defensive ability and even less interest in even pretending to try.

    This is why he's been objectively terrible his first two seasons.
     
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  6. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Agreed. If you look at HS players they are useless the first year and pretty bad their second year (the lone exception being Lebron James). Kobe, KG, T-Mac were a$$ their first year.

    Considering he was barely more experienced than a HS'er and even when he got to the NBA he was literally and without exaggeration on one of the worst NBA teams of all time... he's on or ahead of schedule AFAIC.
     
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    Is he ready to go stand in the corner again? ;)
     
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    You definitely don't want him in the corner, he's not a good shooter.
     
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  13. BigMaloe

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    What you want in year 3
    24, 5 and 4 on 44/36/80 splits and 57% TS

    What he did in year 2
    22.1, 3.7 and 3.7 on 42.6/33.8/79.7 and on 53.8% TS

    If all he did was mirror his sophmore year stats except hit 36% from 3. He took 554 3s year 2 and made 187. He would have needed only an additional 13 made 3s over the course of the season to be over 36%

    To get to a 44 fg% he would have needed to make an additional 32 shot attemtps. Take away 13 from that total for the 3s needed above and he only needed to make 19 more 2s over the course of a season.

    With 13 more 3s made on the year and 19 2s he would have eclipsed the 24 and 57 ts% in year 2.

    People, imo, focus too much on %s when judging a young talent.

    I think its significantly more important to see Jalen improve his vision as a ballhandler, which would increase his ast and to #s. His FTr increase even more, which would help his fg% and ts%. Continue building up even more strength, which would help on both sides.

    I think your bar for Jalen in year 3 is easily obtainable. I envision him being a 25ppg guy in year 3 and im hoping he gets to that 5 boards and 5 assists mark.

    25/5/5 is my hope
     
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  14. Mathloom

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    So you mean he can actually go to Coachella and paint his fingernails AND start working on his game before the playoffs even end? Some of our resident BBS'ers will be shocked.
     
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    Wanted to add:

    - Udoka actually went to a workout JG had with Noah. A lot of times players are training with people who are living off hype, so I'm glad Udoka checked in to see if these workouts are legit.

    - I love that the first thing Green said to Udoka is: I'm willing to do ANYTHING to win. Udoka won't let him off the hook either.

    - The way JG got out of his rookie slump: got in the gym every day for the rest of the season.

    As I predicted, Udoka is a great fit for Green.
     
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    Rockets head coach Ime Udoka continues to spend time with his new team, recently traveling to meet with Green, including workouts and dinner in the Los Angeles area. “It’s been great,” Udoka told The Athletic last week. “I’ve gotten the chance to spend a lot of time with the players. Got some lunches, dinner, gym time with guys. Also been busy putting together a staff, getting to know everybody, but the most important thing is to spend time with the guys, build a relationship with them, and I’ve done quite a bit of that.”

    The 6-foot-5 Green still has a way to go from a physical standpoint, but from an on-court perspective, his early offseason training ahead of an important third season has looked sharper than at any point previously. There’s been more of an emphasis on the mental aspect of the game for the talented young scorer with an aim to increase his processing speed and slow down his movements. Green’s ability to make high-level reads is still a work in progress, despite flashes and improvement he’s made since entering the league in 2021. Becoming a more complete player is Green’s No. 1 priority and winning the mental battle is a critical step.
     
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