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Mike Scotto: Rockets might use 4th pick as trade bait?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, May 18, 2023.

  1. YOLO

    YOLO Member

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    It's really strange how you think playing meaningful games and having a play in within reach isn't a benefit to a team full of kids who need to learn how to win. that's the big difference between winning 30 and 40. Not to mention you don't give okc top draft picks
     
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  2. Believe It!

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    You can do both. Few of the young potentials that are lacking can be replaced by a couple other young potentials that have a better projection.

    You still have 60 some odd million in free agency to bring in the right vets to balance and grow with the core.

    No?
     
  3. RocketsFido

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    Amen Thompson is good at every thing except shooting. He is also a poor FT shooter (65%).

    I can see us drafting him but have him come off the bench because if he starts with Sengun, our spacing is going to be horrible.

    It's going to take a couple years for someone to even develop a consistent jumper. Even if we sign 2 vets to add to this team, we're going to be a bottom 10 team in the league for the next couple years while OKC has our picks.
     
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  4. napalm06

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    Fair enough, I guess not even they brought in a 33 year old max contract player with the yips.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    We ARE doing both already.

    KPJ 23
    KMJ 23
    Green 21
    Jabari 20
    Sengun 20
    Garuba 20
    Christopher 21
    Eason 21
    TyTy 21

    We need to find out from these whom fits with Ime first - then start purging and consolidating, adding Amen into that group, whom does Amen play over ????

    Not Green, KPJ at the 2, not over Christopher
    Not over Eason on Kenyon.....so you send him to the Gleague?

    Seems a waste....much better to trade the pick as part of a package for like Bridges etc.

    Most players don't hit their prime until 24-26......we have so many still developing.

    DD
     
  6. Easy

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    I said "as long as the young core is making significant strides." If they grow enough to win 40 games instead of 30 games, I'll be ecstatic. But if winning more games means some guy winning a few more games for them without them doing much better, then that's pretty meaningless.

    What they need foremost is structure and accountability. That's mostly coaching. A few vets, especially at the PG position, who know the game will help. The next thing they need is some guys to push and compete for their minutes, not vets who take up their minutes by default (like Eric Gordon did).

    You need to take a long look, not quick fix, at rebuild.
     
  7. YOLO

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    you're not making strides if you're not actually winning games. the more these kids win games, the more meaningful games they play and when they have things like play in experience within reach, it's absolutely beneficial and in reality essential in taking steps forward

    were not talking about a quick fix. the next step is to actually learn how to win games and have a chance at the play in.
     
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  8. No Worries

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    Amen spends his first season in the G League.

    He needs to learn the NBA game. He needs to learn to play point for reals. He needs to learn how to shot.

    Amen spends his second season as a backup PG. Maybe he ends the second season as the starting PG? Or he starts his third season? Or ...
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Amen needs to take several large developmental steps before he is an everyday starting NBA PG. Anybody who does not recognize this ...
     
  9. Believe It!

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    Hope Udoka is all I expect and that Stone is not going to FK this whole thing up.

    Would be nice if in future drafts, top players have not black balled Houston as a dysfunctional team.
     
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  10. Reeko

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    Amen spends his 1st season in the G-League? Our 4th overall pick? No way No Worries

    I’d rather him be on the bench and see and learn from there plus practice with the coaching staff and against actual NBA players

    What is he gonna do in the G-League? Just put up numbers getting by on athleticism playing with and against random scrubs in an unstructured environment.
     
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    We can agree to disagree.

    PG is the hardest position to transition from college to NBA ball. It is the reason why TyTy got sent down last season.

    If Amen doesn't listen to his G League coaches and goes hero-ball all and everytime, his ass needs to be sat down. Amen will be there to learn how to run a pro O and to start working on individual and team D ... and to take 100s of 3 pointers and free throws a day.
     
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  12. YOLO

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    If you're a top 5 pick and aren't good enough to get consistent minutes on a 20 win team, you're actually not that talented. it's really that simple

    tyty was a end of the 1st round pick. It's absolutely understandable he got sent down.
     
  13. Reeko

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    How many times in NBA history has a top 5 pick spent their rookie year in the G-League?

    TyTy was the 29th pick in the draft

    they don’t run pro offenses down in the G-League, it’s basically SL

    Nix and KPJr were down in the G-League just chucking and putting up numbers. What did they really learn over there?

    TyTy went to the G-League and took 22 shots a game and 9 threes a game shooting 26% from deep, a role he will never have in the NBA. How did chucking up shots help TyTy when it came to running an NBA O or with individual or team defense? There is no defense played in the G-League, that’s why someone like Nix can go there and average 21, 6, and 7.

    G-League is a waste of time to me unless the goal is to just chuck up a bunch of bad shots u wouldn’t take in an NBA game and score points.
     
  14. hlmbasketball

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    I agree and he doesn't have to be in the G-League the whole year, just 2 - 3 mos.

    Also, if we're battling for a Play-in spot, I can see him coming in and being a big addition.
     
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    I agree but he doesn't have to be in the G-League the whole year, just 2 - 3 mos.

    Also, if we're battling for a Play-in spot, I can see him coming in and being a big addition.

    And with the way KPJ gets banged up and miss games, we will need another Guard to handle the ball and make plays.
     
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  16. whiskeyred

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    It stuns me that anyone would consider bringing Harden back. Am I alone on this?
     
  17. saleem

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    Great creative work. Send this to Stone.
     
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  18. lakersuck2

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    The problem with this idea is that any win now piece we target with 4 will also be targeted by the Blazers with 3. And this is one draft where there is a massive chasm between 3 and 4. We're outbid right from the get go.
     
  19. Mathloom

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    I've been thinking it would be ok if it weren't the max but this latest admission that he essentially doesn't want to be coached has me rethinking it.

    I'm such a huge Harden fan is the main reason. If it were anyone else I would probably not even consider it.
     
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  20. daywalker02

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    Banchero, Franz, Fultz, Cole Anthony, why do they want Amen? A fourth playmaker?

    Another non shooter.
     

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