I think what we have here is a Micro example of a Macro problem. Right wing folks went into it thinking that all of the legal and corruption problems Republicans were found guilty of was because it was a Democrat deep stake AG that appointed them. That wasn't true. But it was their perception. Thus they believed that when a Trump AG appointed the special prosecutor of course facts would back their assertions. Yet, the investigation didn't back their assertions. The facts do have a liberal bias. In this way our system actually did work. The FBI was found to be justified in starting the investigation into the Trump campaign. The investigation into the Trump campaign justly ended with dozens of convictions and guilty pleas. But the refusal to accept the results and try to spin it to their bias. The actual facts did end up delivering the actual results. Yet, it's funny that going in one side was so sure with "non-biased" (Republican) appointees somehow the result would go their way. Rather than simply accept the facts were against their politicians in other investigations, they placed their eggs in the wrong basket.
Donald Trump's election is an imperfect, and unfortunate, lens through which to view government corruption and election integrity. But if the essence of free speech is defending the right to speech with which you disagree, then recognizing the US government's efforts to prevent Donald Trump becoming president is the election integrity analog. The Obama Justice Department, in an unholy alliance with the Clinton Campaign, engaged in a direct, targeted, campaign of slander and innuendo to undermine Trump. This was done with the full knowledge of Obama himself (and Biden). The FBI should never have opened an investigation, should never have used the Steele dossier as a basis for the FISA warrants. Everything that followed, including two impeachment proceedings, flowed from that original sin. A smug narcissist used the most powerful tools of government to undermine the candidacy of an insecure narcissist, and, having failed, ensured that the entirety of the latter's term would be spent fighting off false accusations of collusion with one of our greatest geopolitical foes. Clinton had his staffers remove the letter W from all the White House keyboards. Obama pissed in the well. Obama did all this with the active support of the press and large swaths of the US government. The press gleefully pwned itself in 2008, and Obama seeded justice, treasury, various other parts of the with you've read the report?
Again that still ignores that the Trump investigation was conducted privately becaue they didn’t want to be seen influencing the election while the Clinton one was done publicly and did affect the election. To reiterate the public didn’t even know that Trump was under investigation until after the election. That you keep on bringing this up shows this is more just rehashed partisan grievance.
I will when I get the chance but reading the report doesn’t change the fact that the Trump investigation was conducted in private during the 2016 election. It’s a very odd argument to claim that the investigation was meant to interfere in the election when the electorate didn’t even know about it.
All we’re seeing is a double down of previous accusations and suspicions rather than anything new. Many here even those who claimed that Durham didn’t need to have a report but would have many convictions and that this would be game changing just can’t bring themselves to acknowledge that this was largely a dud.
The CIA sent a memo to Peter Strzok, a FBI agent, since that is how the CIA and FBI rolls. Did you get dropped on your head as a baby? Is this a desperate cry for help? Are birds real?
lol. The NY Times itself was identified as a main purveyor of disinformation. Of course The NY Times is going to sell the Durham report as a big nothingburger . . . that is precisely Dershowitz's (and others') point
Yep, need moar fax. NYT hasn't exactly strained to rebuild credibility this past decade. If anything, their reporters want more counterpunches and even pre-emptive punches in pushing a story to the point where they'll openly rebel against the editors. When things are this contentious, I'd rather wait for the record to settle.
