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Who is John Durham

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Sep 14, 2020.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    Bu-bu-bb-bb-butt Steele Dossier!!

    Cons aren't livid that the suspected abuse happened, rather that they didn't do it first. :rolleyes:
     
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    They'll find those space lasers any day now, you just wait.
     
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  3. dobro1229

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    Either you don’t realize the reason we are talking about Durham today is because the NYT just reported on Barr’s influence over Durham or you are just F-cking with me.

    You haven’t used the fake news card yet though so feel free to do the whole “can’t trust the media” song and dance.
     
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  4. basso

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    you should read further up the thread.
     
  5. basso

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    please read further up the thread.
     
  6. dobro1229

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    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/26/us/politics/durham-trump-russia-barr.html

    This entire article is about how involved Barr was with the Durham investigation. It’s been all over the news the past 24 hours. Im not sure what QAnon theory you threw out on page 15-36, but on page 37 we are talking about the NYT report.

    So are you throwing the “fake news” card or what? This would be the time to do that if you are going to use that.
     
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  7. dobro1229

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    It’s an outrage that the DOJ and FBI used unverified Russian disinformation in order to investigate Trump!!!!

    But THIS is totally justified!!!!

     
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/john-durham-finds-russiagates-rosetta-stone-fake-emails-fbi-investigation-top-secret-nyt-intelligence-11674856205?mod=hp_opin_pos_3#cxrecs_s

    John Durham Finds Russiagate’s Rosetta Stone - WSJ
    Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.Jan. 27, 2023 at 6:06 pm ET

    Throw in a few real names and places to make your inventions believable and people will believe them. This is the method of many a disgraced journalist such as the New York Times’s Jayson Blair and the Washington Post’s Janet Cooke. It was the method of the Steele dossier fabulists Igor Danchenko and his boss Christopher Steele.

    But missing from the list is the most consequential fabricator of all, whoever dreamed up the presumably fake email exchange between then-Democratic Party chief Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and activist Leonard Benardo of the Open Society Foundation. This imaginary exchange may have made Donald Trump president.

    The fictitious email referred to a presumably equally fictitious conversation between the Clinton campaign’s Amanda Renteria and Obama Attorney General Loretta Lynch about making sure the Clinton server investigation didn’t “go too far.” The words found their way into a Russian intelligence document, which found its way to the FBI, becoming the justification for FBI chief James Comey’s chaotic actions in the 2016 election.

    The rest may be history but it’s ignored history except in this column and in a top-secret Justice Department inspector general’s report—which the inspector general himself in testimony before Congress unsuccessfully urged be made public.

    Well, if the New York Times on Friday is right, one question has been answered. What the FBI didn’t do, the special counsel John Durham apparently did, using his investigative powers to examine Mr. Benardo’s communications and confirm that the alleged email was indeed spurious.

    This is important for reasons unrelated to any point the New York Times wants to make, which consist of well-worn evasions about the Russia collusion hoax. Example: As long as the FBI decision to open an investigation based on collusion allegations can be justified, no other questions about the FBI’s actions, or about the actions of Democrats and the media in promoting the collusion canard, need to be entertained.

    More gobsmacking is the paper’s failure to mention a key fact. The fake Benardo-Wasserman Schultz exchange surfaced not in the Trump-Russia investigation, but in the Clinton email investigation.

    To the extent it became involved in the Trump case, it was only because Mr. Comey’s FBI colleagues blamed his actions in the Clinton case for putting Mr. Trump in the White House. This is plainly seen in the contemporaneous texts of people like the FBI’s Peter Strzok and Kevin Clinesmith, the FBI lawyer who would later plead guilty to falsifying collusion evidence in what looks suspiciously like an FBI effort to change the subject from its own role in the 2016 election. Mr. Comey’s original mad intervention led to his second mad intervention, reopening the Clinton case before Election Day when the Anthony Weiner “sexting” laptop emerged.

    The press should be eager now for Mr. Durham’s final report because the special counsel has unexpectedly drawn a bead on the true Rosetta Stone of 2016.

    A better journalist than any journalist was prominent Democrat Terry McAuliffe. When the story broke in May 2017, he pointed out that whoever invented the Benardo-Wasserman Schultz-Renteria-Lynch narrative, and in the process likely elected Mr. Trump, had to be unusually knowledgeable about Democratic Party activists.

    The consequences are not just every single thing that happened in the Trump era. A direct upshot is the “Twitter file” revelations that roil our politics today. A vacuum became apparent, and the FBI has been trying to fill it ever since.

    The FBI and many others saw in 2016 how dramatic and pivotal can be the effect of last-minute memes and sensations in our painfully close presidential elections, which in 2016 and 2020 were decided, respectively, by 77,000 and 44,000 votes.

    The discovery by officials that, by citing their investigative and intelligence powers, they can impart a decisive spin to these memes has become a mandate, in their minds, to do so. Starting with the Clinton email case, the FBI repeatedly invoked false claims about Russian intelligence to influence our politics, including in the 2020 Hunter Biden matter. Americans avert their eyes from this reality. Foreign intelligence services are not so squeamish and are probably already speculating how the FBI will try again to select our president in 2024.

    Seven years have given us the perspective to see something if we are willing to see it: The FBI’s intervention in the Hillary Clinton case launched the agency on a new role as continuous actor in our presidential politics, with no end in sight unless society makes a deliberate effort to return our securocrats to their proper sphere.
     
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    WSJ needs to look at the mirror.

    the WSJ was silent
    during Trump's ~5-yr parroting of the QAnon false claim that Obama was not born in the USA
    when Republican VP candidate was lying about the "death panel" attendant to ObamaCare


    also, it has been silent on the serial fraudster George Santos / Anthony Devotder​
     
  10. basso

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    feel free to start a standalone thread.
     
  11. Invisible Fan

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    It's been reported that Loretta Lynch recused herself shortly after word that Bubba showed up unannounced where she was landing and they talked for iirc 15-30 mins in private. She owed her start and career to him, so there was no way to shake off further rumors or damage in inpropriety.

    Wsj can cheer that nice small multi-million dollar nugget as a participation prize, but other than a way to fill words, that email rumor didn't take Lynch down to set up Comey.
     
  12. basso

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    sorry, your point is incoherent. restate?
     
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    This whole thread is incoherent, restate?
     
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    OMG The report is out!

    Time for heads to roll!!!!!

    BRB - reading through the scandal.
     
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  16. SamFisher

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    The Durham Report delivered a smoking gun on the sham investigation of Trump's Russian Ties that Trump asked John Durham to run
     
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    I am not sure I am ready for a post John Durham Report world.
     
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    A special prosecutor has ended his four-year investigation into possible FBI misconduct in its probe of ties between Russia and Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign with withering criticism of the bureau but a meager court record that fell far short of the former president’s prediction he would uncover the “crime of the century.”

    The report Monday from special counsel John Durham represents the long-awaited culmination of an investigation that Trump and allies had claimed would expose massive wrongdoing by law enforcement and intelligence officials. Instead, Durham's investigation delivered underwhelming results, with prosecutors securing a guilty plea from a little-known FBI employee but losing the only two criminal cases they took to trial.
     
  19. dobro1229

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    Do I still need to hold onto my hat Basso????
     

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