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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pringles09, Feb 21, 2023.

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  1. TheBeastSystem

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    drafting miller would have nothing to do with harden

    harden ain't com'n
     
  2. LikeMike

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    I have never seen him play, but his scouting report reads very similar to Jabari - I‘d be ok with a SF version of Jabari on this team, but the prospect of adding a PG with superstar upside like Scoot sounds a lot more intriguing.
     
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    I was warming up to Miller but the tournament was a huge turn-off for me. I'm starting to lean with the potential of the Thompson twins over him tbh, Plus he clearly has a few loose screws.
     
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    Miller...it's a tough one, I think he was mentally overwhelmed during the tourney. I mean one of his close associates just killed someone and he was connected...I don't care what your value system is, that's going to weight on any young person. Then play in the biggest tournament of the college year. So I understand the poor play there, just wonder where the kid goes from here mentally? The fact that he chose to do the "pat down" was clearly in poor taste, Just concerning

    I'm very intrigued with Amon, his length, athleticism, and passing could be very effective until he develops a shot...which seems to be a common theme with the top guards.
     
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    It’s miller time
     
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    I could see KPJ provoking Miller with his legal case..... darn.
     
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    KPJ isn’t like that at all. He’s always had great relationships with teammates.
     
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    Go hit up YouTube and watch some clips. Always a good idea to get a firsthand perspective on prospects.

    On paper he sounds similar to Jabari, but if you watch him play you can see the release point on his jumper is much lower, so it's a lot easier to challenge his shots, and he has much less defensive upside because he's just not that quick laterally the way Jabari is.
     
  9. YOLO

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    it's really funny reading this from someone who knows what they're talking about and is one of the most respected in the draft space. And comparing it to the couch evaluators just talking random lol

    At 6-9, he brings excellent size on the wing, along with dynamic shot-making and increasingly strong playmaking and defensive versatility. He's an easy fit on basically any roster, and would benefit playing alongside the shot-creation prowess of Jalen Green and Alperen Sengun and the floor spacing of Jabari Smith Jr. as he makes the adjustment to the NBA. -- Givony

     
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    A more bouncy Jabari sign me the hell up
     
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    Miller is overrated at 3 imo, he should go 5 or 6

     
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    I agree. I like Walker or Amen ahead of him.
     
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    Yeah, he may drop on draft boards as we get closer. There are some teams where he's a great fit, like Keegan Murray last year with the Kings, so he could still be drafted highly depending on how the lottery shakes out. But I don't see superstar potential with him. I would peg his median outcome as "good starter" with an outside chance of making a few all-star games. People throwing PG13 comps on him need to go watch and compare tape of Miller with tape of George's rookie season. PG13 is much, much more athletic and much better at creating for himself.
     
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    brandon miller's stock is still at the top right behind Wemby. Nothing's changed whatsoever. The team that gets him is going to be damn happy with an elite prospect and yeah hes still very much comparable to pg13 coming out of fresno state who had to stay for 2 years. you don't know pg13 if you think he was some ball handling creator coming out of college. That was literally one of his weaknesses as a draft prospect who stayed in college for 2 years.

    Weaknesses: George’s biggest weakness is his inability to create for himself, and his poor shooting percentage when pulling up off the dribble … Lacks a great handle which limits his overall game, as practically all of his baskets come from spotting up, good position down low, or in transition …
     
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    That's all true, he remains the 3rd best prospect. If Amen Thompson had a good jumper in addition to his other skills, Miller would drop down in this upcoming draft.
     
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    Depends on how you weigh floor versus ceiling. Which of these is better?

    Option A:
    70% chance at being a good starter
    <1% chance at being a superstar

    versus

    Option B:
    30% chance at being a good starter
    10% chance at being a superstar

    I would argue it depends on your draft philosophy as well as your team's current situation and needs. If you're last off-season's Sacramento Kings and you already have a couple of all-star level players (Fox and Sabonis), maybe you lean toward option A. If you're, say, this year's San Antonio Spurs, you probably want Option B, because all you've got are a bunch of roleplayers and you need to find a franchise player to build around.

    There's no right or wrong answer, per se.

    For the Rockets, I think we're somewhere in between, but personally I think we're closer to Option B making sense.
     
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    In theory, Amen may become a better player than Brandon. Amen has everything going for him except a jumper. He can't catch and shoot nor can he create his own jump shot. He's a tremendous finisher at the basket though and a good passer. If he can learn to run the P/R reliably he can become a more dangerous threat. It took years for Rajon Rondo to develop a jumper. I think Amen may develop one quicker than him. He's still far away from that imo.
     
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    Top 2 pick pick or bust. If Rockets get #3 or later, explore trade options because of the amount of cap space we have available.

    Assets for a blockbuster trade:
    - 2023 #3 pick or later, #20 pick, future firsts
    - KPJ and/or Sengen
    - Anyone not named Green or Jabari.

    Ammo is there... can't wait for next week. Expecting pain though.

    Dream or something like it.

    PG: MAX FA
    SG: Green
    SF: Jabari or Brown
    PF: MAX FA, Jabari
    C: Wemby
     
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    I like Sengun. It may be necessary to add him in a trade for Brown. Jabari will be the PF, Wemby can be the C/ PF. Harden is the only potential Max FA for the 1 spot. I don't think we need a 4, a bigger and more athletic rim protector would be nice.
     
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