Yeah, veteran players that were drafted by their teams, LOL... How do you think Kansas City acquired Patrick Mahomes? Or Travis Kelce? Looking at the conference finalists last year, all four were built around their draft choices. In fact, Albert Breer broke it all down: The exception is not the Seahawks - it's the Rams from '22: a team that eschewed the draft and will likely be bad for many, many years because of it. Otherwise, you can't name a recent champion that wasn't built with a strong nucleus of draft picks. They just don't exist.
.... the Texans traded away three top picks for one - possibly *the* top pick next year. I guess we could quibble about #33 being a top pick (it would have, after 4 QBs were drafted, landed them a top 29 prospect) but, yeah... the draft *is* a crapshoot which is why a much better approach to it - especially when your roster is awful - is to take as many shots as you can. They used *premium* draft picks - that's the concern. They were positioned to add five top 30 prospects - possibly more if CJ Stroud works out. Now, they'll likely only wind up with three. If, as you said, the draft is a crapshoot - how is having less premium picks... better? And I think there's a disconnect I want to clear up here: I don't hate the Anderson trade at all. It's fun & exciting. Like, on a scale of 1-10, I would rate it.... a 6, maybe? I just feel strongly that the alternative - flooding this team with more premium prospects - was the better path.
For sure. But he was a highly sought after candidate and the hiring process wasn’t a complete clown show. Far cry from anything Cal had done previously.
Nope. I've only acted like the team was positioned to draft five top 30 prospects and will, instead, only draft 3. For a team with a roster this bad... that's not a good thing. They need to throw as much talent at the wall as they can. I mean, there are myriad reasons the Texans are in the position they are - but a big one was the previous GMs threw draft picks away. Caserio throws draft picks away. It's just... maddening. Where have I *ever* said I didn't like the Anderson trade? I have repeatedly labeled it fun and exciting and the biggest jolt this team has provided fans in *years.* Combined with the DeMeco hire - which I loved - and a nice free agent class, this is the most excited I've been about the Texans in a long time. I can feel that way and still lament that they (likely) overpaid for Anderson.
Well stated. Objectively, we significantly overpaid (versus the chart) for the trade up for 1.03. With the talent deficit that the Texans have and still have, we need to hold on to our first round picks -- especially considering the strength of the 2024 draft and the high likelihood that would have been drafting near the top.
Ya this is way too big of a reach for me. But even then, this is absolving all the terrible decisions Cal has made since taking over. Also, they traded away Hopkins 2.5 years after the comments were made.
Objectively speaking the draft trades were bad value. Denying that is silly. They gave up a TON to get the 3rd pick and draft Anderson and there's no good spin. Excuse 1: They liked Anderson better than Stroud but took CJ first to tank the value of the third pick. Rebuttal: Then why the heck did they have to pay one of the highest trade values ever to get the third pick if they were so smart and tanks its value? That makes zero sense. Also, if they value ANY defensive player over the QB considering positional value, that scares me about CJ Stroud. Excuse 2: They had extra draft picks. It's like having extra money, what good is it if you don't spend it? Rebuttal: This is stupid AF but perfectly encapsulates American financial management. Basically my take is very simple. They paid an exorbitant price. You do that, you can't be wrong. If you're right and these are two elite players, then great, everyone will move on. But if you miss on ONE or one is just a solid pro, nothing special, then damn man.
I agree. The DeMeco pick was as much about PR as it was about finding the best guy for the position. As for the latter, there should be no doubt that Cal, Jack and Nick clearly had other agendas that mattered more and when everything went south, they dumped the last two coaches after only one year on the job like yesterday's trash. AND they (Cal and Nick) will not hesitate to stab DeMeco in the back should it suit their purpose. All of this BS with Cal and Hanna on social media is merely smoke and mirrors designed to change the narrative and fool the fanbase.
Easily? Robert Sarver, Jerry Richardson and Dan Snyder were forced to sell. Cuban has had a huge sexual harassment story about how the Mavericks culture is toxic. If it is specific to team success no way Cal is worse than Michael Jordan. Hell...it's debatable he is even the worst owner in the city of Houston.
Yeppers. Fully agree. It also puts even more pressure on Stingley and Green. The idea that they may turn five top 15 picks - including three known top 3 picks, and possibly a 4th, depending how next year's draft lines up - into only one All-Pro is truly frightening. And that's why the "But the draft is a crapshoot" rebuttal makes no sense. Yeah, IT IS! Picking Anderson 3rd doesn't make it *less* of a crapshoot. We have no idea how his career is going to play out. And that's why you're better off throwing as many prospects as you can against the wall to find the ones that are going to stick. They have reduced their margin for error to practically nothing. They cannot afford to be wrong on Stroud and Anderson, and they better hope the new coaching staff can help Stingley and Green reach their potential.
I would've drafted Anderson at 1-2 then traded up 1 spot for Levis and kept the rest of my picks. If Levis sucked in 2022 then the record would've been bad enough to draft a QB high in the better 2024 QB draft. I'm not a Levis fan but he's got as much of a chance for success as Stroud has. IMHO What's done is done though, so we gotta move on.
Not sure how this will come off but you can be a complete POS like the guys you mentioned and still run a competent operation. But like I said, this has nothing to do with Cal as a person rather his decision making since taking over. I can’t think of another franchise that a run of horrid front office decisions like they had.
It's so bad Rams fans are praying they tank this year and nab Caleb Williams in 24'. I've been on the trade AD and Kupp wagon for more premium picks but they are like... " nooooo they are great, why would we trade them?" I guess they don't know what a full tank/send actually means. Good luck not getting a top 5 pick because the draft capital it's going to take for a move up is astronomical. More than half the NFL has more draft capital to send out for the top pick which leads me to another reason I think the Rams are screwed... They will undoubtedly try to overpay and it will be one of the most lopsided trades in NFL history and it'll make our trade for the #3 pick look like a steal. I am just glad the Texans got this out of the way and we can start looking forward to the future. A very bright future...
This take is exhausting. Tell me why he has as much of a chance as Stroud? He falls into the same category of every QB who produces one year in college and doesn't amount to anything in the NFL... EX: Trubisky, Mark Sanchez, Zach Wilson, etc etc. There's a reason Stroud was labeled a top pick (he produced in college and played big in a playoff game vs the eventual champs) and plenty of reasons Levis was passed on by every team in the first round. What's even better is the Titans traded picks for him, it's laughable. They felt the pressure of having the fourth best QB in the division.
Stroud has just as much bust potential as every other Ohio St QB to come out. He is lesser physically than Levis by a lot. From a mobility standpoint alone he was by far the worst of the top 5 QBs. Name the last Ohio St QB that wasn’t productive in college. Go ahead I’ll wait. Levis has as much potential to bust as he does to be a top 3 QB in the league. He can be Sanchez, Trubisky, Wilson for sure. Stroud has more potential to bust than he does becoming a top 3 QB in the league. He’s just as likely to be Winston, Haskins, Jamarcus, Bridgewater, EJ Manuel.
These stroud takes and Levis stans are weird. Also... I DON'T CARE WHAT OTHER QB's FROM OSU HAVE DONE. Absolutely irrelevant to Stroud in almost every aspect especially given the fact he isn't coached by the same staff/scheme/etc. It's a different era of football. It's about what Stroud can do for the Texans and how Bobby Slowik/DeMeco believes he's the right fit for this new system. You either have faith in it or you don't. You're skeptical, that's fine. Y'all have the right to take the stand and complain about draft capital and whatever. But don't come back in here celebrating crap about him if he does succeed. "I'm glad I was proven wrong" stances when the take was dead wrong. It's probably going to happen and it's clockwork. Texans fans hating the tank then hitting the home run trying to take the next step only for fans to be upset at draft capital like it's something they possess is weird.
