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Man Dies After Chokehold in Subway in NYC

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, May 4, 2023.

  1. Tomstro

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    you actually never do. All your posts prove, and it’s airtight proof, is that you hate white people. That’s all your posts convey. You’re just a racist. You’re no better than a white supremacists.
     
  2. apollo33

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    Beijing is not the same, those you see are part of this group called "armed police" which is a part of the military.
     
  3. Tomstro

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    incredibly naive
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    Seriously why would even consider that o value your opinion about me? Every single time you've posted in the D&D you've defended and spewed far right rhetoric.
     
  5. Tomstro

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    You’re a loser. I am nowhere near the far right. I asked you recently if a day goes by where you don’t come on here spewing your hatred of white people and your answer to that question was no. Not like we needed that proof anyway. You are a racist POS.
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    Yup, a common aspect of white nationalism is claiming any call out of racial hierarchies and systems is racist towards white people. The whole "CRT teaches kids to hate white people" shtick.

    Thanks for proving my point.
     
  7. Tomstro

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    yep whatever and a common aspect of racism is admitting that you hate another race. You did that. You are trash.
     
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  8. NewRoxFan

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    Of course, since one of the two people there killed the other, we will never know what really happened. We only have the word of a criminal that killed the other person. So then we are required to take the word of a convicted criminal. A known liar (his bail was revoked for lying). A criminal that was also accused of other violent crimes.
     
  9. LosPollosHermanos

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    He called Clarence Thomas an Uncle Tom and diversity hire. The cognitive dissonance is unreal. Using racially charged terms and racist profiling when doesn’t fit his narrative


    And I’m for prosecuting this guy and also believe if he was black the outcome and justice system would have been different. There’s a healthy point vs being crazy and calling everyone a white supremacist.

    strikes me as very borderline PD— everything is “all good” or “all bad”. Difficult ppl to be around
     
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  10. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Actually, we have substantial other evidence. That other evidence was presented at trial and evaluated by a jury (and the trial was televised so you can watch it for yourself). You could hear Zimmerman lose sight of Martin. You could hear Martin confront Zimmerman. You could see the wounds on Zimmerman's face and the back of his head. The autopsy report described the wounds on Martin's knuckles (from punching Zimmerman repeatedly). You could hear the testimony of independent witnesses that described one person on top of the other punching downward. It is a fantasy to believe all we have is Zimmerman's claims. In the real world we have evidence and a trial by jury.
     
  11. tinman

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    These lunatics aren’t even rockets fans
    They don’t belong here
    They belong on a chicken farm cleaning up chicken poop
    @Xerobull @Os Trigonum
    Or be a volunteer at the alligator petting zoo
     
  12. tinman

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    Well they have really bad basketball players there that’s why when Jimmer Ferdette goes there and drops 75 points they call him a ‘Star’

    there’s a statue of Stephon Marbury there
     
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    He is.
    Whypipo Whypipoing.

    They justify any evil and vileness as long as it either
    1. Done by their white folx
    or
    2. It happens to non-white folx (sometimes if the white folx ain't "their" white folx they ok with that too)

    Rocket River
     
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    There is also the evidence of Martin's phone record showing that he was on the phone not planning an ambush or attack. We have corroboration of that record and witness testimony. We also have the evidence of how if Zimmerman's gun was actually holstered at the time of the attack as he claimed, it would have been near impossible for him to take it out in the middle of the combat.

    Which all flows with the defense idea that Zimmerman was threatening Martin with a gun which would entitle Martin to legally attack Zimmerman.
     
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  17. rocketsjudoka

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    Except that Zimmerman wasn’t just walking down the street. He was deliberately following someone who he thought was suspicious, might possibly be dangerous and was advised not to.
    The very argument they Zimmerman had to defend himself shows that he did put himself in a dangerous situation.
    how do you know that he was being pursued by an armed individual who did end up shooting him. What Trayvon Marin thought cannot be fully determined but from the cell phone records he was feeling threatened. We also don’t know what if any exchanges was made between them at the moment of encounter other than Zimmerman’s own words.
    How was Trayvon Martin supposed to know thst Zimmerman was in the phone with 911 or even what Zimmermans intent was?

    Also I don’t know the relevance of your last sentence. Neither Zimmerman or Martin were LEO.
     
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  18. rocketsjudoka

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    Again all of this was hashed out in the Trayvon Martin thread. Leaving aside though the question of legality it is a fact that zimmerman put himself in danger. The argument that Zimmerman’s defense was justified can’t hold unless Zimmerman was in danger. This is another example why it’s a bad idea for civilians to try to enforce the law.
     
  19. rocketsjudoka

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    There still uncertainly about the Jordan Neely situation but I wouldn’t be surprise if manslaughter is the charge.
     
  20. NewRoxFan

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    Especially when it turns out that they are criminals, proven to lie, and have been accused of other violent crimes.
     

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