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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. basso

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    no, but my point was/is, politics, and the parties' relative positions, have morphed dramatically in my lifetime.

    and to bring us back to current events, the Biden of today is not the Biden of 20 years ago, much less 30 or 40. He's....adapted.
     
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    Yeah, let's talk about that manana or soon-ish. I have stories.
     
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    The running joke is that a socialist like Bernie’s current platform would be from a right wing party in a western European nation.

    But point taken. Clinton went Tough on Crime and decentralized the markets.

    Bush took a liberal interventionist ideal and refashioned it with the neocons to make folks like me sick of war.

    Trump’s flagrant abuses of free speech (and constitutional norms) plus the amplification of social media with its algos designed to simplify and polarize has made many liberals pause on unfettered speech.
     
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    This guy loves attention from the media. While it would be nice to believe his doom and gloom rants I don’t really trust anything coming from pretty much any Russian leader ever. They have a culture of lying that hopefully never gets accepted here even though that culture does permeate through the MAGA base.

    I believe what the map shows and that is that Russia has stretched its primary troops all along the Donbas to create a land bridge with Crimea. The line could be very thin though and could break easily for sure.

    Ukrainians will need to stage a counter offensive that cuts off Russian troops in a way that they are caught between the sea and the Ukrainians which will force them to retreat via the Sea back to Russia. The end of this always will be Crimea. Until we are talking about the war in around Crimea I don’t really care about the rants of the Wagner guy.
     
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    what does MAGA have to do with the Wagner group?
     
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    Sure one would hope that even the elderly would be able to change and adapt to a changing world.
     
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    Youre telling me the western sanctions biden installed crippled them and are not enabling them to replace the equipment lost on the battlefield???

    You're telling me basso all the right wing garbage trolls were posting here how ineffective the sanctions were ultimately lies?
     
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    I clear referred to the Russian culture of lying. Do you deny that the MAGA culture also isn't a culture of lying? Cause... I mean it is very similar to the Russian culture in many ways. I don't know if you are MAGA or not so maybe if you self identify with MAGA then that'll make you feel uneasy but it's the truth.

    But back to my point.... why would anyone believe any Russian official about anything ever?
     
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    who is more honest between a maga, Chinese or russian official?
     
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    Kinda surprised this guy hasn't accidentally fallen off his balcony yet.
     
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    There's a joke about the three of them walking into a bar that is just waiting to be told.
     
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    If they're bringing the tanks then the offensive is about to start any day. They wouldn't risk losing em to artillery fire if the offensive wasn't starting soon
     
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    Adorable.
     
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    LOL!!
     
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    delete
     
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    Via chatbot:

    Trump, a Chinese Communist Party official, and a Russian official walked into a bar and ordered a drink.

    Trump ordered a tall glass of "Trump-tini" and boasted about the U.S. economy.

    The Chinese Communist Party ordered a Red Star Beer and discussed their future plans for world domination.

    The Russian official ordered a shot of vodka and discretely discussed their latest espionage activities.

    The three of them clinked their glasses and made small talk about their respective countries.

    Then, the FBI walked in and arrested them all on charges of involvement in high-level government corruption and espionage.

    The end.​
     
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