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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ItsMyFault, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    I am the Vishnu of Clutchfans and you are just an avatar of me…:p
     
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    They are being complete idiots. We elected the worst government simce 1945.
     
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    I don't know FPL's specifics (as I have Duke) but my understanding is you can sell back excess energy for credit on your bill. I believe that's state law. I looked into putting solar panels up, and almost did but didn't want to put them on the front of the house and it takes a lot of panels to cover 100% of your home's energy especially in the Florida summer.

    $350k makes no sense, unless your home is 25,000 sq feet.
     
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    We're seeing a once in a generation shift to upgrading our transmission lines like never before. Big changes are happening regardless of the braindead activists @rocketsjudoka they're tackling the electricity issue head on
     
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    It's so refreshing to see America take the smart logical way on tackling climate. You will *ONLY* win on PRICE not fear mongering. If you want people to switch to green you need to compete in price and technology.
     
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    20 million homes due to new climate subsidies by biden....
     
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    except for RFK Jr's home on Martha's Vineyard
     
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    I don't think people appreciate the massive scale that green energy is being rolled out right now. We're seeing a 30x from last year. The best thing about this is that it's price driven and not fear mongering driven.

    If you want to win over normie voters you have to pitch them green energy as cost saving. I'm happy were not like the braindead Europeans who are doing the opposite
     
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    ‘Over My Dead Body’: Backlash Builds Against $3 Trillion Clean-Energy Push
    Ballooning size of wind and solar projects draws local ire as they march closer to populated areas

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/inflat...n-energy-wind-solar-f3d4d900?mod=hp_lead_pos5

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    LAWRENCE, Kan.—The federal government has ignited a green-energy investment spreethat’s expected to reach as high as $3 trillion over the next decade. The road to spending that money, though, is increasingly hitting speed bumps from the likes of Gerry Coffman.

    About an hour southwest of Kansas City, she turned down a wind lease last year on a farm that has been in her family since 1866. Someone knocked on her door a few months later, paperwork in hand, and offered $6,000 to hang a wind-power transmission line across her land. If she agreed to store construction equipment, she stood to make an additional $4,000. Ms. Coffman said no.

    Ms. Coffman rotates corn and soybeans and has cattle pasture on her part of the family farm, which includes a wooded ribbon of water called Eight Mile Creek. Ms. Coffman doesn’t want to see native forest or prairie disturbed and thinks the industrial nature of towering wind turbines would change the community for the worse if a proposed project were built.

    “A year ago we were a nice, quiet neighborhood,” said Ms. Coffman, who has attended a series of contentious public meetings over several months as the county considers revising regulations for wind-energy development.

    County-by-county battles are raging as wind and solar projects balloon in size, edge closer to cities and encounter mounting pushback in communities from Niagara Falls to the Great Plains and beyond. Projects have slowed. Even in states with a long history of building renewables, developers don’t know if they can get local permits or how long it might take.

    In Kansas, wind power grew rapidly for two decades and supplies around 45% of the electricity generated in-state, ranking it third in the nation. But at least five counties in more-populous eastern Kansas have recently placed moratoriums or bans on new wind or solar projects, joining 18 others that already restricted wind development to preserve the tallgrass prairie ecosystem. Kansas lagged behind nearly every state in large project construction and new clean power capacity last year, according to the American Clean Power Association, an industry group for wind, solar and battery storage.

    President Biden’s signature legislative accomplishment, the Inflation Reduction Act, aims to make the nation’s electric grid and fuel industries cleaner. Companies have already announced plans for $150 billion in investment in renewables and battery storage in the eight months following the law’s passage, according to the American Clean Power Association.

    Potential private investment over the next decade spurred by federal tax incentives and loans could include $900 billion in renewable-energy projects and $100 billion in battery storage, according to Goldman Sachs. Adding investments in such areas as carbon capture and electric vehicles, total spending could reach $3 trillion, the firm estimates.
    more at the link

     
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    You realize how amazing this is for so many people? Giving rural Americans 10k cash for something simple? @AroundTheWorld deranged Europeans scare monger people into change while Biden is giving people cold hard cash Yes you found a story of a pissed off person but where I work in Indiana which is very very red they're embracing it like crazy. There's tons of money for farmers to plant different seeds and other upgrades for real cash. Farmers are leveraging their land to make alot of side income. It's a boom for so many people with shrinking margins

    People literally have no idea the transformation that's happening in America right now. The latest Gallup poll shows less than 20% of the population knows biden signed a climate bill.

    This country is so stupid and they don't appreciate the massive transformation that's happening in America right now with green energy. We are seeing once in a century transformational change.

     
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    lol. read up on how much people in Pennsylvania have made off of fracking leases
     
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    https://www.fb.org/market-intel/whats-in-the-inflation-reduction-act-for-agriculture


    Do yourself a favor and do some reading. There's tens of billions for rural America and rural America will come out on top after this. It's kinda annoying how dems look out for rural America so much when they hate them.

    If you're comparing fracking and planting seeds and other carbon capture methods your brain is worst than Commodores.
     
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    https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/06/royalty-payments-drilling-activity-on-the-rise-in-marcellus-shale-region-of-pa.html

    Royalty payments, drilling activity on the rise in Marcellus Shale region of Pa.
    Updated: Jun. 17, 2022, 4:52 p.m.|
    Published: Jun. 16, 2022, 3:47 p.m.

    By John Beauge | Special to PennLive

    Times have changed for the better when it comes royalty payments for property owners in the Marcellus Shale region of Pennsylvania with natural gas well eases.

    Eight years ago Bradford County landowners were getting checks as low as $1.10. Today some of the monthly payments are in the six figures.

    “It’s like a gift from God,” said Rex Kinglsey, who has six wells on his property.

    Coterra Energy, formed by the merger of Cabot Oil & Gas Corp. and Cimarex Energy Co., paid $2 billion royalties between 2010 and 2021 just in Susquehanna County, spokesman George Stark said.

    Statewide, the industry will pay county and municipal governments affected by drilling $123,217,163 in impact fees for the 2021 reporting year, according to the Public Utility Commission. With this year’s distribution, communities will have received over $2.2 billion.
     
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    Hey genius is there oil in every part of rural America? Whats your point of this garbage? How does this help a farmer in Iowa or Missouri? Bidens plan does and will make huge impacts for the community.

    What you're forgetting is that these new industries have prevailing wages clauses in the bill. To install solar/wind you need to pay 60k salary+ and all sorts of other perks. Biden is transforming rural America with high paying jobs and new cutting edge industries. It's just too sad most rural Americans are too damn to realize it.
     
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    are you always this polite?
     
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    He called you a genius, what more do you want from him?
     
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    that was my meaning. what did you think I meant
     
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    All the last page of this thread has shown is that money can be made from power generation whether fracking or wind and solar.
     
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