Yes Two folks that aren't even free agents. might as well make luka, giannis, and curry our targets also. Targets that we can potentially go for in the uncertain future. Just use your imagination.
What offense did we have outside of isolation and occasionally throwing it into the post? We still got a bunch of open 3p shots with it but you act like we were running the Kings or Warriors offense that was sophisticated and got us a bunch of high quality looks. Ball movement was the exception and not the norm. In fact Sengun was the only one who really got called out by Silas during the press conferences so who's to say that KPJ wasn't doing exactly what Silas wanted?
Offensive rating back then with Harden/cp3 when they were a perennial contender. 2017-2018 Ranked #1 @ 114.1 2018-2019 Ranked #2 @ 114.9 If you're trying to act like the rockets offense wasn't anything special well its pretty easy to say you're completely off. I guess someone who just joined a month ago would have no clue they had historic offensive seasons.
That’s right…. I would hope the Rockets still operate like Morey and constantly inquire about players. Like I keep saying… I view the rockets differently than you and the other “harden or bust” group. I think we have way too many players and we need to consolidate. Can’t help it if you are singularly focused on Harden at all costs so you can’t see the forest through the trees.
Did you pay attention to the context? We weren't talking about the offense of the Rockets when we were actually good with MDA and Harden. We were talking about LAST year with KPJ, Sengun, Jalen etc. >If you're trying to act like the rockets offense wasn't anything special well its pretty easy to say you're completely off. I guess someone who just joined a month ago would have no clue they had historic offensive seasons Now apply this last part to yourself and your comment and make sure you're replying to the right thing.
@DatRocketFan is definitely referring to that when he clearly stated "It was stupid back then when we have dumbasses outright say they prefer watching team ball and b sht than have harden play winning basketball" I've been around long enough to know what hes referring you. Again you clearly don't. Now get familiar first before you talk out the side of your neck and assume He knows this offense is trash with kpj at pg. that's the point
He was referring to "**** alternatives like KPJ" and I directly replied to the lack of sophisticated offense we had and how the only person(Sengun) who moved the ball was the one who got called out in the media. How do you know KPJ wasn't playing exactly how Silas wanted him to play and therefore made to look far worse as a playmaker? Read the whole comment before replying please.
I'm not Harden or bust, but I don't necessarily think this is true. Guys like TyTy, Tate, Christopher, Garuba--these kinds of players are third-stringers on a contender (if even that). They don't have any significant trade value. Maybe some team that likes them would give up a mid-late second rounder or something. That's about the level of return you could expect for these players on their own. Our list of guys who could be rotation players on a contender is like 6 deep. We can free up the minutes to add a couple of guys pretty easily without making any trades. Not that I'd necessarily be opposed to trading some of our lower-tier rotation players in the right deal for a good starter. But we don't have to. We could just sign a couple of free agents (maybe one of them is Harden, maybe not) and it's fine.
no when he specifically says back then hes referring to all the b****ing and complaining about iso ball. which you mr i joined last month wouldn't know about
I was referring to the part of his comment regarding KPJ. When did Sengun play for the Rockets under MDA? Why would I bring him up and Silas if that's what the response was about? Come on now...
To be clear, I have every asset on the table except for our 2023 FRP…. And that’s only until we get the lottery order. My mindset is different than those that think we are just a “point guard and coach” away.
I was addressing KPJ and him being a sh*t option and I even specifically referenced that in the comment. Just admit that you thought past teams were being slighted and saw red and now you're still going because you don't want to be wrong. Everything about my comment was about the teams under Silas. Not a single reference was about anything before that.
there's nothing to admit. he specifically mentioned the past history of folks complaining about iso ball and folk still bittched about seeing team ball while the rockets were the top offense in the league his post was harden primary referenced. and yet you gloss over that and act like its not even there. and your first response was talking about the lack of sophistication. clearly if hes talking about harden hes talking about years ago
1. Kpj is a sht option at pg bc he isn't a pg. 2. Our offense blows bc of kpj and silas but mainly bc kpj lacks the skillset of an actual pg Yolo knows what I'm talking about and referencing to. U on other hand are a brand new poster. If u don't have the time to read the countless of post related to this convo its best u shouldn't come out and reply to my posts. During the harden era we have folks btch that they would rather watch team ball than have iso harden ball. We now have the similar dumba$# who would rather have kpj and his sht offense over harden. The common trait both these folks share is they don't even watch the games or are active on here most of time.
I wasn't referring to the Harden era at all. Just KPJ. I'm saying that it's hard to quantify anything about the Silas era because there was no correction or accountability at all and we weren't running a sophisticated offense. I've also read this entire thread. Doesn't take long.
I didn't refer to iso ball at all. Just the KPJ era under Silas. My entire post was specifically that. You and the other guy are talking about things I never referenced. I even stated what I was referencing in that post and you STILL don't see it.
You always listen to all offers as a matter of policy, but you don't trade Green/Sengun/Smith for anything but a top 15 superstar, 25 or under, on a multi-year contract, or a young guy who has a better chance than our guys do at becoming that type of player. Trading those players for a Mikal Bridges, Jaylen Brown type of player who is outside the top 20 players in the league and is a finished product, that would be foolish as hell. It would also be foolish to trade a top 4-5 pick in this toploaded draft lottery for that level of player. And no, we are not a coach and a point guard away and I don't think most people are saying we are. But we might be a coach, a point guard, and 3-4 more years of player development away, which is a different story.
then you might want to choose a different post to quote as he just explained exactly what i was talking about
