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Elon's biggest problem @ Twitter - he's not funny at tweeting

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Dec 2, 2022.

  1. hooroo

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    i don't see how any of those tweets are problematic. whoever is running elon test is clearly taking the piss.
     
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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    I missed the part where it was proven to be linked to Elon Musk.
     
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    It was verified by Twitter?!?! :cool:
     
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  4. Space Ghost

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    If Musk doesn't get a 100B valuation in 10 years, I would consider the Twitter acquisition a failure. And this does not consider debt servicing and inflation.
    I do believe he will get there. He has deep pockets and massive amounts of resources. I can't predict the future anymore than anyone else. Starship could be a massive failure and bring SpaceX down and his Tesla stock with it. Meta is heading the way of MySpace and TikTok is too narrow focused. A decentralized platform is too unrealistic at this point. AI is certainly a wildcard here, for everyone. I would say Twitter has about a 2 year window to convince its user base to stick around. If Musk continues to amp up his childish behavior, it will be a massive liability (yeah i get it, everyone thinks this already). Musk before Covid was a much better person. I hope he can adjust, avoid the political nonsense, and earn the respect back from industry.
     
  5. superfob

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    Thanks for a more nuanced take. I believe that what Elon bought was a brand and user base, not a tech company. I believe he has ruined one and alienated the other. Hence the 50% devaluation.
    There's still a small possibility that the Elon name will attract enough talent for Twitter to pivot as a tech company, but I have my doubts.
     
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    The RESTRICT Act is going to fundamentally reshape social media where there are known creators and we the regular user will be treated consumers.
    If Section 230 were to be revoked, the internet as we know it is over.

    Elon will never make his money back with Twitter.
     
  7. Amiga

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    This is one thing that Musk has been consistent about. He said he will simply follow the local rules. Under his leadership, Twitter is giving in to demands from governments around the world. If China says jump, he jumps. If Turkey says censor, Twitter censors.

    Twitter is complying with more government demands under Elon Musk - Rest of World

    The bulk of the recent requests come from countries that have recently passed restrictive speech laws — most notably, India, Turkey, and the United Arab Emirates. Germany, which generated 255 requests, recently increased enforcement after revisions to a 2017 law prohibiting hate speech and extremism.


    Under previous ownership, Twitter actively resisted requests from many of these same regimes. For two weeks in 2014, the platform was banned from Turkey, in part due to its refusal to globally block a post accusing a former government official of corruption. (The executive who led that charge was Vijaya Gadde, one of the first executives fired after Musk took over.) In July 2022, the company sued the Indian government over an order to restrict the visibility of specific tweets. After Musk’s takeover, however, Twitter complied with more than 100 block orders from the country, including those against journalists, foreign politicians, and the poet Rupi Kaur.
     
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  8. astros123

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    Elon goal isn't to make money with twitter. It's to buy influence and have political clout. Look how powerful he is in the GOP....

    He was able to dictate a congressional hearing on the fly just the other month. He has gym Jordan cell phone.....
     
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  9. Invisible Fan

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    Dorsey Bro, I thought u were cool.
    Jack Dorsey Explains Why 'It All Went South' With Elon Musk At Twitter

    Twitter co-founder and former CEO Jack Dorsey slammed Elon Musk on Friday and said “he should have walked away” from purchasing Twitter last year.

    Dorsey, in posts on his Twitter alternative Bluesky Social, told a user that he doesn’t believe Musk is the right person to lead the company and explained that “it all went south” with Musk’s $44 billion acquisition in October, CNBC reported.

    “Nor do I think he acted right after realizing his timing was bad. Nor do I think the board should have forced the sale. It all went south,” he wrote. “But it happened and all we can do is build something to avoid that ever happening again.”

    Dorsey, in another post, wrote that he thinks Musk “should have walked away and paid the $1b” — a reference to a $1 billion termination fee if either Musk or Twitter backed out of their initial deal last year.

    Dorsey shared his remarks via his invitation-only alternative to the social media giant, a platform called Bluesky that he announced in 2019 and launched in 2021.
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    Dorsey once referred to Musk as the “singular solution” he trusted to lead Twitter. However, his views on the company’s leader appear to have shifted.

    In the time since Musk’s acquisition, the platform has seen a number of upheavals including widespread reforms to its blue check mark policies, cuts of its staff and other policy changes.

    “Payment as proof of human is a trap and I’m not aligned with that at all,” wrote Dorsey, referring to Twitter Blue’s $8-a-month cost. “The payment systems being used for that proof exclude millions if not billions of people.”​
     
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    Meh. That dude is running a new rival platform -- not saying the claim is false, but source not very objective.
     
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    He can do whatever he wants. Logical (usually failed one) excuses are not necessary.

    Just another solid step demonstrating Musk-Twitter cannot be trusted with brand safety (can extend it to individual user branding), a basic fundamental of social media platform. Musk is easily triggered to retaliate or intmidate against anyone he doesn't like or did "wrong" to him.
     
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    Again, if someone has announced they are quitting a platform, why would they demand a right to keep their name represented on the platform? Can't have it both ways.
     
  16. Amiga

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    I didn't argue against that at all. I said logical reasoning is not necessary. Musk can come up with whatever reasons he wants.

    He doesn't have to do it. But he is doing it, and that demonstrates the (probably #1) problem he has had since day one of taking over, which is the erosion of trust in his platform and brand safety.
     
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    The way I understand it, he is just telling them what I just said - you can't expect to keep your handle if you publicly state "we are gone". Not sure what's wrong about that, or what has anything to do with "brand safety".

    If I leave Clutchfans and make a grandiose announcement about it, I cannot expect Clutch to retire my handle either.
     
  18. ROCKSS

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    Before I knew the public persona of Elon I really admired him, he`s done some great things, but now that his real character is out in plain sight everyday I still respect his business acumen, but the guy seems like a spoiled douche bag, when CEO`s start getting in the political lane your going to lose clients. I am sure the man will never hurt for money but I wish he would shut his pie hole and go back to working on the rocket program and turn twitter over to a real CEO
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  19. Amiga

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    Impersonating your brand is bad enough but taking over your alias is much worse. It can greatly hurt their brand.

    @npr is still there. He can just leave it alone.
     
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    Why would he, when they made it a point to announce they are gone?

    They clearly wanted to harm Twitter/him by saying it.

    Again, they can't have it both ways.

    You announce you are gone - you are gone.

    Looking at @NPR, they are only using the handle to try and lure people away from the platform, to competing platforms.

    Like any business, he has good reason to not allow that kind of hostile usage of his platform.

    Imagine you run a restaurant, and people run around in your restaurant handing out flyers for the competitor.
     

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