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2023 NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. Commodore

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    PFF blasts the Texans for giving up too much in the Will Anderson trade at the 8 minute mark here

     
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    This means almost nothing, but I feel like at the very least, the Texans aren’t pulling another “we know something you don’t, we’re smarter than you” BS. I feel like BOB was like this, loved a small school (I could be wrong, just a feeling).
    I don’t know if I’m ready to grade Caserio good or bad yet, but drafting mainly from the best conference in college is at least a good path to be on.
     
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    But but he drafted an OSU QB… one for the haters to argue.
     
  10. tmacfor35

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    Why are analyst so obsessed about finding who was really the Texans intended pick at 2.

    They are trying to justify themselves so hard on why they were wrong.

    Ego is incredible
     
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    Man, I’m an OSU fan, and I understand the concern.. but it seems like most of the complaints are the trade back up to 3. Also it’s just wild how many ppl want to be negative no matter what. Don’t get me wrong, the last 2 years have been the lowest I’ve given a **** in a long time. And I don’t agree with so many of the choices. But all of the obese this off-season have been refreshing and positive. We complained so much in years past about not being aggressive, now we have so much draft capital that we got aggressive and that’s not right either..

    also, trading our pick instead of browns pick, while it might end up being a bad decision, it gets everyone rooting for wins again. Change the culture and let’s go. If we traded the browns pick instead and it “made more sense” then it’s an entire season of hoping we lose with all our new coach/players/etc. just seems like that’s what you do with your interim coaches. I want to be sad we lost again… but sorry, I’m a homer for that. I’m sure everyone else knows so much more about the future and rebuilding than me, or caserio for that matter.
     
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    Well that's a pretty good summary for me.
    We've had the Nico Collins trade, which at the time was called the 3rd most egregious overpay of draft capital of the last 10 years and now we have 2nd worst non-QB overpay of the last 20 years.

    TWENTY "bleeping" YEARS!!!


    That's our "Trader Nick".
    The anti-Danny Ainge!
     
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    This is really the most interesting thing going on in training camp. I know everyone is hyped up on Stroud and Anderson and the receivers. I'm ready to see this!
     
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    What if….hear me out….what if one becomes the starting LG and the other at Center? :eek:
     
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    I just don't understand how to come to the conclusion that it was an egregiously bad trade. I totally get that my glasses are Battle Red, but if the Texans felt as though Will Anderson was the best defensive prospect to come out in years, and projects to be better than any defensive player coming out in 2024, then what's wrong with giving up a #1 and a #2 for him? (I'm not counting the #12 pick we lost, as that was a part of the actual swap). We gave up what may be a top-5 pick next season, and what was a high #2 this season, for a player that we would've gladly taken last year at #3, we did take at #3 this year, and would happily take at #3 (or higher) next season.

    They felt as though with their QB in hand, they're immediate #1 need was pass rusher. One of the best over the last few years was staring them in the face, went to the same college as the brand new head coach, and was DYING to be here.... honestly, I feel like it was a good deal for both sides... Who cares what those stupid charts say... they don't take into account, who's actually available at those picks... I'm good with it...
     
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    https://theathletic.com/4490198/2023/05/05/nfl-draft-class-analysis-execs-unfiltered/

    Houston Texans

    For the first time in years, the Texans appear all-in on a head coach (DeMeco Ryans), a quarterback (C.J. Stroud) and a signature defensive player (Will Anderson).

    “They were sitting out the last few years and now they’ve re-entered the world,” an exec said.

    No one is questioning the Texans for adding the Ohio State quarterback Stroud and Alabama pass-rusher Anderson with the second and third picks, respectively. Lots of people are questioning the price Houston paid in jumping from No. 12 to No. 3 for Anderson, but no one can say for sure if the Texans could have made the jump more affordably.

    “In a vacuum, everybody without pressure can do better,” the exec said. “I don’t know if their GM survives a really bad year and is making the picks next year, anyway. And then they are drafting C.J. Stroud, so giving up a shot at a quarterback next year doesn’t matter. I don’t think it’s a terrible deal for them. They paid far less than San Francisco paid to make the same jump for Trey Lance two years ago.”

    This was the third time since the rookie wage scale arrived in 2011 that a team traded from 12th to third in the order.

    Houston spent the 12th and 33rd picks, plus 2024 first- and third-rounders, to acquire the third and 105th picks from Arizona. The 49ers’ move from 12 to three for Lance cost them two future firsts and a future third, far more than Miami paid when making the same jump in 2013 for Dion Jordan. That move required sending only the 42nd pick to the Raiders in a draft that saw no quarterbacks selected until E.J. Manuel at No. 16.

    “It was a fair trade on all the charts,” another exec said of the Texans’ move. “My guess is that they were split between the two players, Stroud and Anderson, and they said you know, this pick we acquired from Cleveland is 12, and our pick from Cleveland next year is going to be lower, so let’s see if we can move up and just get them both.'”

    Teams flush with picks might sometimes become freer with their spending.

    “Miami did it trading up for Jaylen Waddle, Houston did it for Will Anderson, and I’m not sure Detroit takes Gibbs if they had just the one first-round pick,” another exec said. “But since they had two, ‘Yeah, well, whatever, we’ll take Gibbs.'”
     
  20. tmacfor35

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    The media is truly butthurt about not predicting the Texans moves prior to draft.

    They are still using the "probably, maybe, could, think" rotation.

    They need to move on.
     
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