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Jake Fischer: Rockets have discussed Jalen Green trade

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, Apr 28, 2023.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Youth is not an excuse, if Jabari can't hit shots, he deserves to rid the pine till he can. If Jalen can't defend better than a traffic cone, he deserves to ride the bench till he can. If KPJ doesn't play the way he's asked to, he deserves to rid the pine till he will. If the "can't play Kanter" moments keep piling up with Sengun, he needs to ride the pine till he improves.

    None of the Rockets are good enough for special treatment. There are absolutely no stars on the current roster.

    The good news is as of now I truly believe Udoka will hold them accountable and that should lead to improvement.
     
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  2. Hemingway

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    This is such bullsh*t. Rookies don’t progress riding the bench. We were tanking. Who takes his minutes? Tari, Tate, Gordon, Garuba. Who was more important to develop that was on the bench? He progressed very nicely and will be a factor next year as a result.
     
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    I wouldn't trade any of our four young core players (Sengun, Green, Tari, Jabari). Imagine a GM trading Curry after his first three losing seasons. You would regret it forever.
     
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    Curry > Next Corey Brewer though
     
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  5. Bobbythegreat

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    Sounds like you're going to be very upset with the new coach then, he's planning to bring in a culture of accountability that you seemingly oppose. If you can't take advantage of the opportunities you are given, you don't deserve them.

    The Silas time, where draft status means you will never be held accountable is over.
     
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    I don't think you understand what "accountability" means. It's not about missing shots. It's about things like lollygagging instead of getting back on defense (KPJ). Taking bad contested shots early in the clock (KPJ). Turning the ball over because you drove into traffic without a plan then reactively looked for a bailout pass (KPJ). It's not about bad results, it's about bad process.

    And yes, there has been some bad process from all our players and it's good they'll be held accountable for that. But there's definitely one offender who stands clearly "above" the others in that regard.
     
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  7. Bobbythegreat

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    If a 3 and D player like Smith can't hit shots but they just keep running him out there anyway due to his draft position, that's not holding him accountable.

    I know you want to whine about KPJ, but despite your hilarious analysis, he was one of the best players on the team and the most consistently good player on the entire roster.....and I think he'd still benefit from an accountability culture, but so would those who were absolutely terrible for most of the season like Jabari and Jalen.

    Turns out, you don't actually want accountability, you just want to whine about KPJ.
     
  8. OremLK

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    Nope. Nope. Nope. Player development is part of a coach's job. You are just dead f***ing wrong here. Good coaches understand potential and projection and want players to get reps in their ultimate roles so they can get better and have successful careers. Sometimes that means tolerating a lower shooting percentage from a young player for awhile. What you want to see from them is good shot selection.

    Yeah, you're just convincing me more and more that you really don't get it at all. I'm pretty damn sure you don't even watch the games based on the collection of posts you have made; or if you do, you're just not processing anything you're seeing. You're just looking at box scores and taking them at face value. It's a very results-oriented way of looking at things and it's not at all the way a good coach or a good front office analyst would approach things.
     
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  9. Bobbythegreat

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    Gotcha, so no accountability to highly drafted players who suck, because potential is more important than accountability....but you definitely need accountability for the most consistently good young player on the roster.....because.....reasons.

    You make a lot of sense and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
     
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    Nobody is forcing you to trade them now but in 2 or 4 years I would scour the market.

    That is probably when they decide on Udoka to extend or not.

    Also nobody is forcing Tilman to enter Phase 2 or Phase 3, this guy is just acting on his own schedule.
     
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    The beavis n butthead (high drafted players who so called suck) vs 3 stooges (most consistent good young player after sucking first 3 yrs) comparison expert is if nothing else.....consistent
     
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    you can't bench players for missing shots, like Smith Jr. However, lack of effort on defense should get your a$$ on the pine, 100%. How is youth an excuse for not getting back in transition for example? It's just running. Do we have to wait for the likes of Green to turn 25 to start getting back on D?
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if Ime leaked this info to light a fire under Jalen. He was advertised as a workaholic prior to being drafted on this board, I have not seen any indications or articles about him going above and beyond in the 2 years he has been here, maybe he has lost motivation losing so many games, honestly everyone who is not a second year player should be considered on the block at this point.
     
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    bad influence from twin
     
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    I don't see how an article would change someone's view fundamentally but please have at it.
     
  18. Mathloom

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    I told y'all.

    I agree that season 3 is make or break for Jalen, but I'm also confident he's going to exceed expectations if he buys into learning and applying everything he can from Udoka.
     
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    I don't like Kevin Porter Jr. But I'm willing to give him another shot under Ime Udoka. I think he can play better with a good coach.
     
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