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Harden vs. Jaylen Brown and Grant Williams

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Francis3422, May 1, 2023.

  1. riko

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    One trick? He was scoring from the midrange, at the buckets and the three point line. The irony is he only had only 4 free throws and went 17-30 from the field. That’s as diverse as it gets
     
  2. OremLK

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    The only thing I can see is that we manage to work something out regarding the back end of his deal for his age 36/37 seasons. He will absolutely get the full max for years 1 and 2, no question in my mind.

    Some options for limiting the cap hit down the road could include:
    • Club option for 4th year
    • Partial guarantee for 3rd & 4th years, performance-based/minutes played incentives to unlock more money for Harden
    • Just a straight 3 year max deal, no 4th year of any kind
     
  3. Reeko

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    I would be shocked if Harden even entertained those 1st 2 options

    I can see the max for 2 years and a decreased salary the final 2 seasons all fully guaranteed or with a PO on the final season if he’s gonna give us some discount
     
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  4. Reeko

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    a lot of people here really don’t watch anyone aside from the Rockets
     
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  5. DaDakota

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    Let's see how the rest of the series goes.

    DD
     
  6. YOLO

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    They definitely don’t. Their posts definitely snitch on themselves
     
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  7. Aruba77

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    Grant Williams didnt get on the court much last night.
     
  8. YOLO

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    It’s this simple. Grant Williams is irrelevant. The off-season was a failure if this was the main acquisition
     
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  9. AroundTheWorld

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    No to Grant Williams. Tari is already better.
     
  10. Hemingway

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    Is this DD’s shadow account? Neither of you guys must have been watching Harden much this year. Really stupid take.
     
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  11. Easy

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    This is a good question. If Morey doesn't want to pay him the max, why would we? They are a contending team. We are still figuring out which young guys we want to keep. And we pay a declining guy a long term max contract. Doesn't make sense.

    If Philly offers him the max, will he leave a contender and "come home" to play with a bunch of kids?
     
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  12. SamFisher

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    If Morey was the GM of Houston, would he opt for Harden? That's the question that you should ask.

    It's pretty simple, Harden is worth more accounting $ to Houston than he is to Philadelphia based on 2 entirely different situations and consequences thereof.

    A 40 win season for Houston would represent a triumph next year. A 40 win season for Philadelphia is a disaster. Different things are different.
     
  13. Reeko

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    How do y’all know it’s Morey who doesn’t want to pay Harden and not ownership?

    If the Sixers are another 2nd round exit, why pay Harden the max and pay massive LT bills for years to come for a team that can’t win a championship or even make an ECF while having very limited ways of getting better?

    and if Harden does go, Tobias comes off the books next summer as well, so they could try to retool around Embiid and Maxey

    Rockets are in a completely different phase than the Sixers…Sixers are championship or bust, Rockets making the play-in next year would be considered a success and massive improvement
     
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  14. ashleyem

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    Harden always plays well in Game 1s but his performance gradually declines as the series progresses.
     
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    Playoff basketball is exhausting with the grabbing and fouling which is allowed. Very few guys could take the pounding and exhaustion of being a one man team in a playoff scenario (Lebron, MJ). The one year, Harden had someone who could help take the load they would have won the championship without a CP3 injury and a totally biased ref crew.
     
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  16. Easy

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    No, the question is, will Morey offer him the max in Philly? That's the only question worth asking in reality. If he does, will Harden leave?
     
  17. SamFisher

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    Sure, but if he doesn't it doesn't mean the Rockets shouldn't do the same - you asked "why would we" - answer is because different things are different.
     
  18. Easy

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    Yeah, it's different. Philly needs Harden to contend now. Houston doesn't. The Sixers have more reasons to sign Harden than the Rockets.
     
  19. chenjy9

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    I can easily see Embiid asking out if Harden leaves
     
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  20. Joe Rocket

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    You act like we have a choice. It's his choice. The ego of Houston fans is unreal and slightly delusional lol
     

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