Jake Fischer: Rockets have discussed Jalen Green trade

I get you and I was there as well at one point. I dont want him at PG at all. I’ll look at it it either Green flourishes and fulfills his potential or maybe down the line Green is a major part of a trade. Shoot, maybe KPJ is the amazing trade piece but he doesn’t hold that value right now.

I like both Green and Al more personally but there is very little point in dealing Porter right now unless the offer is just amazing.

I see a tremendous spot up shooter. A guy who can get and hit the mid range as well. Udoka won’t allow some of the body language and practice/game issues that have come up.

My thing with all of these guys it’s just wanting to see what happens now that they have some time under their belts and they have a real coach who is going to focus on accountability.

A compliant KPJ in an Udoka culture could be huge. It’ not the time to cut bait unless it is an amazing offer. Im not trading him for #18.

 

Delete

 

Harden looking at Green like: yeah I'm coming back, and you lil baby's replacement

 

KPJ should have been at the conference, especially since he proclaimed that Houston saved his life and that he is the PG(leader) of the team he had no choice but to brown nose and show up

KPJ wanted to be at Coachella with his twin, but he needs all the positive PR spin he can get since coming from Cavs the way he did, I give props to KPJ for showing up, it brought him a extra year under that annual contract extension

 

Yeah don’t quite get it. Green has more physical abilities and skills to me and is growing into his own and the narrative that he’s underwhelming or a volume scorer is unfair especially when he played on such inexperienced and poorly constructed teams. Both Lillard and Booker’s overall FG% was around .420 their second season in the league. In fact Green’s 2pt FG% was better than Lillard in his second year and tied with Booker also in his second year in the league.

You know what you’re getting with Brown who is a big guard north south guy that can get buckets and a steal a game. I don’t think he would have fared much better if you inserted him in that Rocket lineup last year. In fact Brown couldn’t even crack 15 pts as the second option to Kyrie in Boston in his second year in 17-18. If the Rockets are seriously considering trading Green it would be an incredible misstep and gross display of impatience.

 

Saying Green didn’t improve his handle is just bias. Trash on his defense, that is fair game.

 

His handle and playmaking, thanks to two man game with Sengun, definitely improved noticeably. Also i think he got better around the post he isn't missing easy layups as he was missing last year.

 

Green
BAD
-Not good at D. Slightly better on ball against PGs. Better last 30ish games overall but still bad.
-Made strides as passer bit still not primary creator type.
-Struggles with consistent form on 3ball, kills his %.
-Needs to be better FT shooter.

GOOD
-Generates good looks whenever he wants for himself. Is going too fast and there’s not always repetitive with his movement so he’s percentage is not as high as it needs to be. But he creates some amazing layup opportunities.
-Can be a good shooter when he is focused and slows down a bit. Shows at end of clock.
-Made strides as passer.
-Made strides in 2 man game w/Sengun.


I personally think the most important thing in the NBA is the ability to generate a drive to the rim. Green has all league potential here. He really needs to focus on executing on executing moves the same way. He makes what should be simple with his athleticism sometimes look difficult. There are times when he converts and times that he should, but does not . There’s too much deviation to be consistent and efficient.
- Thought he improved as a ball handler and with his offhand.


Pretty simple for the guy. He needs to get closer to his final physical form and lock in on D. My only fear is that that takes two or three years and we end up in this questionable spot of what to do with his second contract.

I still think that he ends up a bit better than a Devin Booker type.

 

Its why I mentioned ''via his camp''

That would qualify as agent/fam n friends/bball acquaintances right?

 

[

Also look at Brown’s numbers his second year. In fact look at his 3rd year which was his second full year as a starter. How many 30 Or 40 point games did he put up?

 

FYI you can still be a great player and not be good defensively. Luka, Nash, Curry, Lillard to name a few.

 

It boggles my mind that people can watch Green play and not see the projection there. His shot creation has leading scorer in the entire league type potential. He can get a good look basically whenever he wants, he just needs to improve at converting on those looks, but that couldn't be more normal for a kid who at his age, should still be playing college basketball. Are y'all just not even watching the games?

 

It’s baffling how people think stars just come into the league dominating or become great overnight. For all of the criticisms against Green he improved his jumpshot from 34% in 21-22 to 36% in 22-23. He shot 42.3% from 15-19 ft in 22-23. He shot 35.2% from same range in his rookie season. He also shot overall mid range 39.9% in 22-23 as opposed to 38.5% in 21-22. While his pull up jumpshots declined he improved his step back immensely from
27.2% rookie year to 34.9% second year. He is growing. A work in progress. Coming into his own just like his predecessors.

 

He is no doubt a rare talent with explosiveness and speed and one of the top if not top guy in the league with those tools.

 

So I guess having a real coach doesn’t matter?

k

 

He's 20 averaging 22 and getting to the rim at will. I don't think you really understand what that means lol

 

I still think the handles and turnovers are a problem too. The big thing I thought he improved this year was his strength/finishing at the rim through contact, but I was pretty disappointed this year in Jalen. I always thought he was gonna need two years minimum to develop so let’s see if he can put it together in year 3 with a better coach.

 

Doing this without an actual coach and lack of an actual pg.

Most folks hating on green, are just box score watching and folks who have a weird aversions to dudes that pay their finger nails.


his perception around the league would have been a lot more positive if he had an actual coach and a legit pg his first two years.

I am really against running it back with kpj as pg b/c he blows at it, but am curious to see if Ime can transform kpj into the guard booby and double d keeps blowing their loads over

 

Below is a list of the people who averaged atleast 20 ppg 21 and younger. Also I didn't see anyone say he was THE cornerstone, seems like you added that. People tend to do that when they know they have a weak argument.. Also if you notice most of these guys (Who arent bigs) Didn't shoot well, its almost as if it has something to do with age lol

Jalen has less turnovers than everyone on this list. He had 200 this year. Again it's almost like it has something to do with age lol

 

Can’t give up on Green yet. Gotta let the kids grow up first before you give up on them.