I don’t and have called them narcissists and think they actually do more harm for the causes they advocate. Those people are extremists who very likely are more interested in the attention they gather than the issue. It’s the same way I don’t neo Nazis to represent the Conservatives movement. The problem with our debates is that they are so often driven by attention seeking radicals who are used to stand in for whole movements. It’s the same argument that I give to those who believe that there should be less regulations on firearms that those who insist on open carrying their AR rifles in Walmart aren’t helping your cause.
Those are an invasive species that I don’t think have much to do with climate change just that they have no natural predators in North America.
zebra mussels have single-handedly cleared up Lake Erie Q: if mollusks don't have hands can they single-handedly do anything? discuss. probably deserves its own poll
Thanks Zebra Mussels! https://www.mlive.com/environment/2...er water through,penetrate deeper in the lake. Zebra and quagga mussels native to Europe’s Caspian Sea are transforming Great Lakes ecosystems and fueling rampant algae growth in all of the lakes except Lake Superior, which doesn’t have enough calcium to support shell formation. The mussels have increased water clarity in the lakes, which allows sunlight to penetrate deeper and support more algae growth. Decaying cladophora algae that washes up on beaches is more than an eyesore: It harbors bacteria that can pose health threats to humans, fish and wildlife, according to scientific studies. Cladophora has been linked to Type E botulism outbreaks that have killed more than 70,000 Great Lakes water birds over the past decade. Chris Otto, a National Park Service biologist who works at Sleeping Bear Dunes, said the cladophora problem is in stark contrast to the national publicity that heaped praise on the popular park west of Traverse City. He said park visitors routinely complain about the algae. The invaders have: * Hurt the $7 billion Great Lakes fishery by taking a giant bite out of the food chain; disrupted power plants and water treatment facilities. * Played a major role in the collapse of Lake Huron’s salmon fishery. * Threatened a Lake Michigan salmon fishery that pumps millions of dollars into coastal communities.
the claim was about "pollution of the Great Lakes." Zebra mussels have definitely benefited Lake Erie in terms of water clarity. Nothing more, nothing less.
here, for example. an article about Mark Sagoff who drew attention to this over twenty years ago: Bio-Invaders Are we under attack by "non-native" species? Should we care? https://reason.com/2000/08/01/bio-invaders/
A free market economy is great at optimizing for cost and profit, but it's extremely bad at solving challenges related to human health or the environment. Innovation is driven by many things, including a free market economy, regulations and laws, and human desire for better things, among others. In the case of some of the biggest environmental challenges, regulations addressed the challenges, and innovative solutions (as well as free market optimization) came after. It's a mistake to think it was the other way around. Here are two examples: The ozone challenge was not addressed through competition in a free market to come up with the best solution. Instead, an international treaty required all adopters to phase out the production of substances responsible for ozone depletion. Adoption of new substances was initially very expensive, and lower-cost substances came out later through new innovation and the free market. A more recent example is the Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants (POPs) treaty, which addresses persistent organic pollutants that pose risks to human health and the environment. Again, it simply requires adopters to phase out the production and use of POPs. The term 'more communism,' used by @AroundTheWorld, is a political term I often see used by the right to criticize regulations, restrictions they don't like, and even public sector investments they dislike. As meaningless like the lovely WOKE usage by the right. As you said, challenges often require all of the above: regulations, laws, public sector investment, private sector innovation, the free market, and international agreements when it comes to global challenges. Governments around the world play an essential and necessary part in moving progress towards solving environmental and human health challenges.
And I am telling you that's not a benefit. Water clarity isn't what is good for Lake Erie - read the post - it's actually devastating as it is allowing fecal bacteria to run amok. It's rare that an invasive species is good. This is not a case that breaks that axiom.
Nobody in this thread pays attention to policy but America is finally winning. This is why having a industrial policy is so important. Nobody can compete with our subsidies and infrastructure Biden will be one of the most important presidents well ever have regardless what right wing trolls say.
related How can we shift to electric cars when we're already seeing that we are going to be told that we must give them up? https://althouse.blogspot.com/2023/04/how-can-we-shift-to-electric-cars-when.html
Your article refers to mineral extraction in Africa which is still very dangerous but the extraction methods here are much much cleaner.. https://mpmaterials.com/sustainability/ MP materials is the largest firm in North America and they're have then cleanest method in the world and don't leave much of a footprint.
Yes, it's too bad Republicans have been so against incentives for developing the production facilities and companies involved in this technology here in the U.S. It would be great to be a leader in the field.
This is not a strong argument that zebra mussels are a good thing. Unless you want your kids playing in poo bacteria.
Yes MP is just ramping up production and the department of energy is investing heavy into them to build out their magnet facility in Dallas. It'll be the only magnet facility in North America. Do some research. It's a great stock and it's very cheap right now. I've invested 6 figures in the company. MP has https://mpmaterials.com/what-we-do/ People don't realize the shortage we have in critical minerals. We don't have the capacity to process the minerals without china's help. Obama clinton Bush trump were all sell outs who gave our national security up for Wall Street money. Biden is bringing it back. You can hate on him all you want but he's trying. https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2023/2/10/us-begins-forging-rare-earth-supply-chain Read this article that a CONSERVATIVE wrote @basso
again, the original statement about zebra mussels applied to one single topic: "pollution." Nothing more, nothing less.
