[2023 NFL Draft/1-2] C.J. Stroud, QB, Ohio State

J.R. · Apr 28, 2023

cmoak1982 · Apr 28, 2023

tmacfor35 said: ↑

Goff, Dak, and Cousins were not nearly as good of prospects coming out of the draft, but sure

His ceiling? LMAO. Oh we are still hating this am.
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Not hating at all. But literally no one thinks he has Rodgers type ceiling man. Gotta be realistic.
He’s a high floor guy.

HeyBudLetsParty · Apr 28, 2023

cmoak1982 said: ↑

Not hating at all. But literally no one thinks he has Rodgers type ceiling man. Gotta be realistic.
He’s a high floor guy.
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He doesn’t have Rodgers arm, if you wanna comp him to a HOF player it’s probably a bigger Drew Brees. Neither are good comps though imo

cmoak1982 · Apr 28, 2023

HeyBudLetsParty said: ↑

He doesn’t have Rodgers arm, if you wanna comp him to a HOF player it’s probably a bigger Drew Brees. Neither are good comps though imo
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Right. He also doesn’t have young Rodgers mobility.
I could see upside of a Burrow, realistically a Cousins/Dak type

red5rocket · Apr 28, 2023

HeyBudLetsParty said: ↑

He doesn’t have Rodgers arm, if you wanna comp him to a HOF player it’s probably a bigger Drew Brees. Neither are good comps though imo
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I'll take the most accurate passer in league history. Does a consistent 5k passing yards a year come with it?

HeyBudLetsParty · Apr 28, 2023

red5rocket said: ↑

I'll take the most accurate passer in league history. Does a consistent 5k passing yards a year come with it?
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I believe in the upside, think he’s the best 3 level thrower in the draft. Just doesn’t have that Mahomes, Rodgers level cannon - it’s a tick below. You don’t need that to be great though

ROXRAN · Apr 28, 2023

J.R. said: ↑

Titans watch Texans snatch away C.J. Stroud
https://theathletic.com/4460983/2023/04/28/tennessee-titans-nfl-draft-peter-skoronski/

The Tennessee Titans lost out on the great AFC South quarterback run of 2023, leaving them Thursday evening as the lone team in the division without a young signal caller for the team, franchise and fans to rally around in the years ahead.

They lost out, and they lost. Got outmaneuvered. Had to change plans.

It happens all the time on draft night. It doesn’t mean the Titans will necessarily end up worse for it — we have no idea how any of this will work out, which makes Thursday’s “L” less severe than last year’s on the same night, when GM Jon Robinson traded A.J. Brown to the Eagles and started the clock on becoming former GM Jon Robinson. That was an obvious and devastating mistake.

This was a miss in the moment, pointing the way to a 2023 season in which the Titans will have the band back together and see if they can rally back toward a division title, and see if they’ll belong on the field with the AFC’s best. New GM Ran Carthon started the clock on his tenure by drafting Northwestern offensive lineman Peter Skoronski with the No. 11 pick.

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In the meantime, they’ll have to contend with a division full of hope at the most important position. And with the division rival who got their guy.

Ohio State’s C.J. Stroud, the Titans’ reported quarterback of choice in the frenzied lead-up to Thursday’s events, went No. 2 to the Houston Texans — that must have been especially frustrating in the draft room for Titans controlling owner and Houston native Amy Adams Strunk. Florida’s Anthony Richardson went No. 4 to the Indianapolis Colts. Trevor Lawrence just led the Jacksonville Jaguars to the 2022 AFC South title, at the expense of the Titans, with an improbable late-season takeover.

Lawrence is very good already. Stroud, like No. 1 pick Bryce Young, appears to have a high floor. Richardson, who needs tons of work to be an effective starter, appears to have the highest ceiling of the quarterbacks in this draft — of quarterbacks in recent memory.

It’s also easy to see a scenario in which Stroud is good but not great. At No. 2, you need great. It’s easy to see a scenario in which Richardson can’t put everything together and ends up a major mistake at No. 4. I have no idea. Nor do you. Young is the only quarterback in this draft who I’m bullish on becoming great. Right around as bullish as I was about Ryan Leaf in 1998.

But the Titans appeared to want Stroud, and someone was willing to make that known as of Thursday morning. ESPN’s Diana Russini, NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport and Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio were among the NFL reporters who connected the two in midday reports. Yes, the misinformation around draft day is thick, but this was a flood of reports. Backed up by action.

Russini said last week on “Get Up” that she would be with the Colts on draft night, giving extra coverage of their activities for ESPN, but something changed that plan. Her Thursday submissions from Nashville, hinting at a big move up, told the story.

The Titans were going to be one of the big players in this draft. They were going to lay out the path to their own future. Then the Texans made it their own path.

Houston, which according to reports had discussed getting a quarterback by using pick No. 12 to move up, instead used pick No. 2 to take Stroud. The Titans’ opportunity to move up and get pick No. 3 from new Arizona Cardinals GM Monti Ossenfort — who most recently worked in the Titans’ front office — was foiled.

The Texans then gave Ossenfort a haul to take the No. 3 pick that the Titans no longer had use for, and they drafted Alabama outside linebacker Will Anderson. Houston left the night with hopeful stars on both sides of the ball. Maybe Houston was going Stroud at No. 2 all along. Maybe not. Maybe the Titans inadvertently convinced the Texans to change course.

Either way, Stroud’s future becomes a critical story for two AFC South franchises, not just one.

Yahoo Sports reporter Charles Robinson tweeted of the Texans’ moves: “Why is this legendary? Because the #Texans eliminated their competition for the #Cardinals pick by selecting the QB at 2 that the #Titans wanted to trade up for. That left the Texans as the lone trade partner for 3. Ninja move.”

Russini tweeted after the Texans took Stroud: “The Houston Texans just made a wild move. The Titans were fighting to get to 3 but once Houston picked C.J. Stroud at 2, the Titans pulled their offer with Arizona.”

Russini later deleted that tweet. Carthon and Vrabel, of course, had no interest in talking about quarterbacks they might have wanted and planned to take. They were on to Skoronski. Like it or not, the band will be getting back together in 2023. The rest of this weekend is about making it sound like something better than a tribute band.
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Living here in Nashville, but as a Texans fan I can say absolutely the Titans wanted CJ really bad including the fans- that was discussed multiple times on the zone 104.5 local radio leading up to the draft... if it makes anyone feel better, the Titans feel pretty much deflated with this draft lol - the Texans did well in more ways than one

Omihall23 · Apr 28, 2023

cmoak1982 said: ↑

Right. He also doesn’t have young Rodgers mobility.
I could see upside of a Burrow, realistically a Cousins/Dak type
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Glad to see you finally being realistic. He’s a high floor guy that is unlikely to straight up bust, but most likely outcome is a stronger arm and more mobile Goff/Dak with Burrow as probably the best possible outcome.

ExTexanNowEastCoast · Apr 28, 2023

cmoak1982 said: ↑

It’s the only way he’ll be successful. He needs talent around him to be moderately successful
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Thanks for your input CJoke. Now, please go wash the dishes before your mom turns off your internet.

zeeshan2 · Apr 28, 2023

J.R. said: ↑

Titans watch Texans snatch away C.J. Stroud
https://theathletic.com/4460983/2023/04/28/tennessee-titans-nfl-draft-peter-skoronski/

The Tennessee Titans lost out on the great AFC South quarterback run of 2023, leaving them Thursday evening as the lone team in the division without a young signal caller for the team, franchise and fans to rally around in the years ahead.

They lost out, and they lost. Got outmaneuvered. Had to change plans.

It happens all the time on draft night. It doesn’t mean the Titans will necessarily end up worse for it — we have no idea how any of this will work out, which makes Thursday’s “L” less severe than last year’s on the same night, when GM Jon Robinson traded A.J. Brown to the Eagles and started the clock on becoming former GM Jon Robinson. That was an obvious and devastating mistake.

This was a miss in the moment, pointing the way to a 2023 season in which the Titans will have the band back together and see if they can rally back toward a division title, and see if they’ll belong on the field with the AFC’s best. New GM Ran Carthon started the clock on his tenure by drafting Northwestern offensive lineman Peter Skoronski with the No. 11 pick.

[…]

In the meantime, they’ll have to contend with a division full of hope at the most important position. And with the division rival who got their guy.

Ohio State’s C.J. Stroud, the Titans’ reported quarterback of choice in the frenzied lead-up to Thursday’s events, went No. 2 to the Houston Texans — that must have been especially frustrating in the draft room for Titans controlling owner and Houston native Amy Adams Strunk. Florida’s Anthony Richardson went No. 4 to the Indianapolis Colts. Trevor Lawrence just led the Jacksonville Jaguars to the 2022 AFC South title, at the expense of the Titans, with an improbable late-season takeover.

Lawrence is very good already. Stroud, like No. 1 pick Bryce Young, appears to have a high floor. Richardson, who needs tons of work to be an effective starter, appears to have the highest ceiling of the quarterbacks in this draft — of quarterbacks in recent memory.

It’s also easy to see a scenario in which Stroud is good but not great. At No. 2, you need great. It’s easy to see a scenario in which Richardson can’t put everything together and ends up a major mistake at No. 4. I have no idea. Nor do you. Young is the only quarterback in this draft who I’m bullish on becoming great. Right around as bullish as I was about Ryan Leaf in 1998.

But the Titans appeared to want Stroud, and someone was willing to make that known as of Thursday morning. ESPN’s Diana Russini, NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport and Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio were among the NFL reporters who connected the two in midday reports. Yes, the misinformation around draft day is thick, but this was a flood of reports. Backed up by action.

Russini said last week on “Get Up” that she would be with the Colts on draft night, giving extra coverage of their activities for ESPN, but something changed that plan. Her Thursday submissions from Nashville, hinting at a big move up, told the story.

The Titans were going to be one of the big players in this draft. They were going to lay out the path to their own future. Then the Texans made it their own path.

Houston, which according to reports had discussed getting a quarterback by using pick No. 12 to move up, instead used pick No. 2 to take Stroud. The Titans’ opportunity to move up and get pick No. 3 from new Arizona Cardinals GM Monti Ossenfort — who most recently worked in the Titans’ front office — was foiled.

The Texans then gave Ossenfort a haul to take the No. 3 pick that the Titans no longer had use for, and they drafted Alabama outside linebacker Will Anderson. Houston left the night with hopeful stars on both sides of the ball. Maybe Houston was going Stroud at No. 2 all along. Maybe not. Maybe the Titans inadvertently convinced the Texans to change course.

Either way, Stroud’s future becomes a critical story for two AFC South franchises, not just one.

Yahoo Sports reporter Charles Robinson tweeted of the Texans’ moves: “Why is this legendary? Because the #Texans eliminated their competition for the #Cardinals pick by selecting the QB at 2 that the #Titans wanted to trade up for. That left the Texans as the lone trade partner for 3. Ninja move.”

Russini tweeted after the Texans took Stroud: “The Houston Texans just made a wild move. The Titans were fighting to get to 3 but once Houston picked C.J. Stroud at 2, the Titans pulled their offer with Arizona.”

Russini later deleted that tweet. Carthon and Vrabel, of course, had no interest in talking about quarterbacks they might have wanted and planned to take. They were on to Skoronski. Like it or not, the band will be getting back together in 2023. The rest of this weekend is about making it sound like something better than a tribute band.
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The understory to all this: HOU took CJ at 2 to take out any of the offers for 3 since teams wanted to trade up for Stroud and then used that to turn around and take 3 themselves. It was genius

MadMax · Apr 28, 2023

J.R. said: ↑

Titans watch Texans snatch away C.J. Stroud
https://theathletic.com/4460983/2023/04/28/tennessee-titans-nfl-draft-peter-skoronski/

The Tennessee Titans lost out on the great AFC South quarterback run of 2023, leaving them Thursday evening as the lone team in the division without a young signal caller for the team, franchise and fans to rally around in the years ahead.

They lost out, and they lost. Got outmaneuvered. Had to change plans.

It happens all the time on draft night. It doesn’t mean the Titans will necessarily end up worse for it — we have no idea how any of this will work out, which makes Thursday’s “L” less severe than last year’s on the same night, when GM Jon Robinson traded A.J. Brown to the Eagles and started the clock on becoming former GM Jon Robinson. That was an obvious and devastating mistake.

This was a miss in the moment, pointing the way to a 2023 season in which the Titans will have the band back together and see if they can rally back toward a division title, and see if they’ll belong on the field with the AFC’s best. New GM Ran Carthon started the clock on his tenure by drafting Northwestern offensive lineman Peter Skoronski with the No. 11 pick.

[…]

In the meantime, they’ll have to contend with a division full of hope at the most important position. And with the division rival who got their guy.

Ohio State’s C.J. Stroud, the Titans’ reported quarterback of choice in the frenzied lead-up to Thursday’s events, went No. 2 to the Houston Texans — that must have been especially frustrating in the draft room for Titans controlling owner and Houston native Amy Adams Strunk. Florida’s Anthony Richardson went No. 4 to the Indianapolis Colts. Trevor Lawrence just led the Jacksonville Jaguars to the 2022 AFC South title, at the expense of the Titans, with an improbable late-season takeover.

Lawrence is very good already. Stroud, like No. 1 pick Bryce Young, appears to have a high floor. Richardson, who needs tons of work to be an effective starter, appears to have the highest ceiling of the quarterbacks in this draft — of quarterbacks in recent memory.

It’s also easy to see a scenario in which Stroud is good but not great. At No. 2, you need great. It’s easy to see a scenario in which Richardson can’t put everything together and ends up a major mistake at No. 4. I have no idea. Nor do you. Young is the only quarterback in this draft who I’m bullish on becoming great. Right around as bullish as I was about Ryan Leaf in 1998.

But the Titans appeared to want Stroud, and someone was willing to make that known as of Thursday morning. ESPN’s Diana Russini, NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport and Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio were among the NFL reporters who connected the two in midday reports. Yes, the misinformation around draft day is thick, but this was a flood of reports. Backed up by action.

Russini said last week on “Get Up” that she would be with the Colts on draft night, giving extra coverage of their activities for ESPN, but something changed that plan. Her Thursday submissions from Nashville, hinting at a big move up, told the story.

The Titans were going to be one of the big players in this draft. They were going to lay out the path to their own future. Then the Texans made it their own path.

Houston, which according to reports had discussed getting a quarterback by using pick No. 12 to move up, instead used pick No. 2 to take Stroud. The Titans’ opportunity to move up and get pick No. 3 from new Arizona Cardinals GM Monti Ossenfort — who most recently worked in the Titans’ front office — was foiled.

The Texans then gave Ossenfort a haul to take the No. 3 pick that the Titans no longer had use for, and they drafted Alabama outside linebacker Will Anderson. Houston left the night with hopeful stars on both sides of the ball. Maybe Houston was going Stroud at No. 2 all along. Maybe not. Maybe the Titans inadvertently convinced the Texans to change course.

Either way, Stroud’s future becomes a critical story for two AFC South franchises, not just one.

Yahoo Sports reporter Charles Robinson tweeted of the Texans’ moves: “Why is this legendary? Because the #Texans eliminated their competition for the #Cardinals pick by selecting the QB at 2 that the #Titans wanted to trade up for. That left the Texans as the lone trade partner for 3. Ninja move.”

Russini tweeted after the Texans took Stroud: “The Houston Texans just made a wild move. The Titans were fighting to get to 3 but once Houston picked C.J. Stroud at 2, the Titans pulled their offer with Arizona.”

Russini later deleted that tweet. Carthon and Vrabel, of course, had no interest in talking about quarterbacks they might have wanted and planned to take. They were on to Skoronski. Like it or not, the band will be getting back together in 2023. The rest of this weekend is about making it sound like something better than a tribute band.
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Is it possible to actually inject the contents of an article into your veins? Asking for a friend.

cmoak1982 · Apr 28, 2023

ExTexanNowEastCoast said: ↑

Thanks for your input CJoke. Now, please go wash the dishes before your mom turns off your internet.
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Shut up b**** before I make your wife clean my balls again.
Sissy ass dude

ExTexanNowEastCoast · Apr 28, 2023

cmoak1982 said: ↑

It’s the only way he’ll be successful. He needs talent around him to be moderately successful
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Thanks for your input CJoke. Now, please go wash the dishes before your mom turns off your internet.

Fulgore · Apr 28, 2023

J.R. said: ↑

https://sports.nbcsports.com/2023/0...s-c-j-stroud-leads-the-way-and-a-tie-at-no-5/

No. 1: C.J. Stroud, Ohio State
What Simms Said: “This is as close to Joe Burrow as I’ve seen coming out in the draft here. I mean, when you just talk about great decision-making, quickness…when you talk about hitting the bullseye on a consistent basis, C.J. Stroud’s ability to make high-level throws and just drop the ball in receiver’s pockets, hit them in the chest, wherever, it’s off the charts good…his arm is better than Burrow’s was coming out…his throwing, especially with the ability to power throw and put the ball into tight windows time after time after time, I’d actually give him the advantage over Joe Burrow in that department.”

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Great video

Nick · Apr 28, 2023

Amazing to see all the bullshitters in here knowing the future.

Mahomes/Rodgers/Brees... none of them were taken at the top of the draft and plenty of people pointed out all their flaws at that time.

Not saying any of these picks are slam dunks but there's a lot more that players have to do to adjust once they get into the NFL... and I'll take guys who have pedigrees against big-name schools in big-name conferences to have a better chance of making that adjustment. Also takes the right coaching staff/personnel so hopefully they'll do a better job of building the roster to foster development.

cmoak1982 · Apr 28, 2023

ExTexanNowEastCoast said: ↑

Thanks for your input CJoke. Now, please go wash the dishes before your mom turns off your internet.
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Shut up b****, before I make your wife clean my balls again. Say hi to my kids for me

ExTexanNowEastCoast · Apr 28, 2023

cmoak1982 said: ↑

It’s the only way he’ll be successful. He needs talent around him to be moderately successful
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Thanks for your input CJoke. Now, please go wash the dishes before your mom turns off your internet.

cmoak1982 said: ↑

Shut up b**** before I make your wife clean my balls again.
Sissy ass dude
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I will get right on that as soon as I am done with your mom. By the way, she wanted me to tell you to get off the damn internet and go wash those dishes. Also, wipe your ass properly because she is sick of washing your turd stained drawers!

Fulgore · Apr 28, 2023

red5rocket said: ↑

Here are some of the notable records and statistical rankings set by Stroud in college:

1st in Big Ten single-season passing yards in Big Ten games (3,193)

1st in Big Ten single-season passing touchdowns in Big Ten games (34)

1st in Big Ten career passing efficiency (182.39)

1st in Ohio State single-game passing yards (573)

1st in Ohio State single-game passing touchdowns (6)

1st in Ohio State single-season completion percentage (71.9)

1st in Ohio State single-season passing yards per game (290.1)

1st in Ohio State single-season 300-yard passing games (9)

1st in Ohio State career 300-yard passing games (15)

1st in Ohio State single-season 400-yard passing games (5)

1st in Ohio State career 400-yard passing games (5)

1st in Ohio State single-season passing efficiency (186.6)

1st in Ohio State career passing efficiency (182.39)

1st in Ohio State single-game total offense (583)

1st in Ohio State single-season total yards per season (367.9)

1st in Ohio State career total yards per season (294.9)

1st in Rose-Bowl passing yards (573)

1st in Rose-Bowl passing touchdowns (6)

1st in Rose-Bowl total yards (583)

1st in Rose-Bowl total touchdowns (6)

1st in Rose-Bowl points responsible for (36)

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Trash. I had a 7th round grade on him

cmoak1982 · Apr 28, 2023

ExTexanNowEastCoast said: ↑

Thanks for your input CJoke. Now, please go wash the dishes before your mom turns off your internet.

I will get right on that as soon as I am done with your mom. By the way, she wanted me to tell you to get off the damn internet and go wash those dishes. Also, wipe your ass properly because she is sick of washing your turd stained drawers!
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Tell my kids hi

cmoak1982 · Apr 28, 2023

ExTexanNowEastCoast said: ↑

Thanks for your input CJoke. Now, please go wash the dishes before your mom turns off your internet.

I will get right on that as soon as I am done with your mom. By the way, she wanted me to tell you to get off the damn internet and go wash those dishes. Also, wipe your ass properly because she is sick of washing your turd stained drawers!
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I’ll send y’all some money soon

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