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[Official] Re-Elect Joe Biden in 2024 thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Mar 25, 2021.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    it's always about me
     
  2. Amiga

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  3. Astrodome

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    Positive sign for Joe. He looked good in his announcement video.
     
  4. Amiga

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    It's a null sign.
     
  5. Reeko

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    don’t really care about what percent think Biden should or should not run again

    What is the alternative? Kamala? Ask them if they’d rather have Biden or Kamala running. Biden or Buttigieg. Biden or Bernie.

    now ask them if they would support Biden over Trump

    those are the real questions
     
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  7. Os Trigonum

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    Why Kamala Harris Matters So Much in 2024

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/25/opinion/kamala-harris-joe-biden-2024-reelection.html

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    As Axios reported on April 17, Gallup polling in March “found that a record 49 percent of Americans see themselves as politically independent — the same as the two major parties put together.”

    This means that there are many moderate, principled conservatives and independents who will not, or prefer not to, vote for Trump again. Just enough of them demonstrated as much in the 2022 midterms to prevent virtually all of the major Trump election deniers running for state and national office from gaining power. Their votes helped to save our democracy.

    If the 2024 race comes down to Biden vs. Trump again, we are going to need those independents and moderate Republicans to show up again. But this time around, because of his age and the possibility that he might not be able to finish a second term, Biden’s vice president will be much more consequential in their minds.

    It’s no secret that Vice President Harris has not elevated her stature in the last two-plus years. I don’t know what the problem is — whether she was dealt an impossible set of issues to deal with, or is in over her head, or is contending with a mix of sexism and racism as the first woman of color to serve as vice president. All I know is that doubts among voters about her abilities to serve as president, which were significant enough for her to quit as a presidential candidate even before the Iowa caucuses in 2020, have not gone away.

    Given the stakes, Biden needs to make the case to his party — and, more important, to independents and moderate Republicans — why Harris is the best choice to succeed him, should he not be able to complete his term. He cannot ignore this issue, because that question will be on the minds of many voters come election time.

    At the same time, Harris has to make the case for herself, ideally by showing more forcefully what she can do. One thing Biden might consider is putting Harris in charge of ensuring that America’s transition to the age of artificial intelligence works to strengthen communities and the middle class. It is a big theme that could take her all over the country.

    I wrote a column more than two years ago suggesting that Biden make Harris “his de facto secretary of rural development, in charge of closing the opportunity gap, the connectivity gap, the learning gap, the start-up gap — and the anger and alienation gap — between rural America and the rest of the country.” It would have been a substantive challenge and would have enabled her and the administration to build bridges to rural Republicans. Never happened.

    I am terrified of going into this election with a Democratic ticket that gives moderate Republicans and independents — who are desperate for an alternative to Trump — any excuse to gravitate back to him.

    And beware. Trump is no fool. If he’s the G.O.P. nominee, I can easily see him asking a more moderate Republican woman, like Nikki Haley, to be his running mate, knowing that her presence on the ticket could be an incentive that gives at least some of those Republicans and independents who are down on Trump an excuse to plug their noses and vote for him another time.
    more at the link
     
  8. dmoneybangbang

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    Meh. I’m not surprised but not thrilled.

    Don’t really want the Christian Taliban in charge so you got my vote Biden.
     
  9. astros123

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    Biden campaign chief is a 33 year old progressive. He was warnock campaign manager. Biden is going run as a populist and do as many popular executive orders that he can.

    Biden is doing more for progressive cause than bernie has ever done. Biden is surrounding himself with young 30 year old who will push hard agaisnt the age narrative. They have lots of exercises and activities lined up with celebs nd stuff.

    Biden team knows age is the number 1 thing and they're building a good team to counter it. No neoliberal hacks or old folks.
     
  10. dmoneybangbang

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    Blah blah blah blah.

    Biden already has my vote if Trump or DeSantis ends up with the nomination, but you aren't going to convince me (someone who is more of a lower case neoliberal, globalist hack) that Biden isn't too old. You are kidding yourself that other people won't also think Biden is too old despite how many young bloods he surrounds himself with. Is it a smart campaign choice? Sure, but he also doesn't really have a choice.
     
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    If you think he's too old I don't care. I'm not here to talk about personality traits. I want the democratic party to ditch it's corporate roots and start tackling corporate consolidation and free trade globalization era we've been in since 80s.

    Biden isn't a neoliberal nor has he governed like one. Talk policy. Whoever comes after biden has to run to his left. The tax hikes he's proposing (billionaire tax) will be the foundation of all democratic policies moving and that's a good thing.
     
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    And yet you took the time to write 3 paragraphs about why I shouldn't think Biden is too old. It's cool.

    And I want a balance. I think Biden is a great person for that, but his age is very concerning and others.

    That may not be how he is 2020- present but Biden's policy over the decades is certainly influenced by the effects of "capitalism triumphing over "communism". Many democrats have proposed and campaigned on tax hikes for the wealthy and I believe it was either Bernie or Warren who proposed the billionaire tax initially. Best of luck getting something like that passed without Congress.
     
  13. hitman1900

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    Eh, as long as you have wackos like Trump or DeSantis as the opposition, then you run with what's safe. Sure I would like a younger candidate but I'm not exactly complaining of what we have either. At least we're guaranteed a different candidate in 2028
     
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    I'm not sure if you're aware but Biden's treasury department got tons of other countries to also adopt a global minimum tax which eliminates tax havens. The corner stone of neoliberal economics is open and free trade. Biden is doing the complete opposite of free trade. He has the most pro american trade policy in our generation


    if you're concerned about his age then I don't know what to tell you. It's just sad how 90% of posters here have no idea about bidens actual policies. It's all vibesss
     
  15. Os Trigonum

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    it would be interesting to see a breakdown of that figure
     
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    That's great. He also voted yes for NAFTA in 1993 since the context was his entire political career.

    Actually the cornerstone is market orientated policies and "free trade" is just a byproduct of that.

    Not really... what he is actually doing is more of a targeted industrial policy that focuses on strategic areas than some wholesale changing of our entire trade policy.

    I mostly applaud his moves economic moves.

    I didn't think there was such a thing as a Biden Bro, but here you are.

    Feels like you are young, but the 2024 campaign is going to be a lot about vibesss
     
  18. dmoneybangbang

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    Coincidentally, conservatives posters have the most posts in the culture war threads.
     
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    The coolest guy in the room always gets all the attention, we can't help ourselves you little studmuffin.

    What's your candid take on Bidens presidency up until this point in time?

    And or, what would be the last presidential term you would personally deem more successful than Bidens? I love you and I have to know
     
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    What are the 19 countries who have requested to join the BRIC nations?
     

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