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Where do you draw the line - transgender

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by droxford, Feb 7, 2023.

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We all draw the line some where. Where do you draw the line?

  1. Society should refer to transgenders using their preferred pronouns

    21 vote(s)
    26.6%
  2. Definitions ("man", "woman", "gender", & "sex") should be changed/eliminated due to transgenders

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  3. It should be permissible for transgenders to share restroom/locker room with their identified gender

    15 vote(s)
    19.0%
  4. Transgenders should be able to participate in athletic & other competitions based on their identity

    6 vote(s)
    7.6%
  5. Transgenders should qualify for loans, grants, scholarships, & admissions based on their identity

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  6. Gender-specific organizations should be required to accept transgendrs based on their gender idntity

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  7. Historical medical records & birth certificats should be changed to only show transgenders' indntity

    4 vote(s)
    5.1%
  8. Transgenders <16 yrs should be able to hve sex-reassignmnt surgery/pubrty blockrs w/o parent consent

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  9. The U.S. government should provide finances for sex-reassigned surgeries and puberty-blocking drugs

    5 vote(s)
    6.3%
  10. None of the above

    56 vote(s)
    70.9%
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  1. rocketsjudoka

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    So that justifies threatening to bomb a church?

    wouldn’t you consider that hate drummed up over the very issues being discussed?
     
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  2. LosPollosHermanos

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    When has anyone condoned any sort of violence. In line with how the Kentucky woman has been abused for simply saying she isn’t comfortable with penises pulled in front of her without consent…violence is never ok.

    as is committing sexual assault to 3 underage girls in a shower which you guys keep ignoring

    You guys frequently employ a straw man tactic to detract from major issues at hand (what the topic is actually about)

    so you can stop distracting for the first and last time, trans people are marginalized all over the world and victims, however there is a group of individuals using them for secondary gain here. That is what is being called out, violence is never ok. If you need someone to explicitly condem famine, world hunger, incest, genocide, etc please let us know
     
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  3. dmoneybangbang

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    LOL.... the pot calling the kettle black.

    Condoning violence is increasing on your side.
     
  4. dmoneybangbang

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    They pretend it's only about the kids.....
     
  5. tinman

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    I’m telling you dude

    woke means you support crime, racism especially against smart kids, Jeremy Lin , and frightening stuff to kids like chopping off their nuts
    And terrible Disney shows
    @ROXRAN
    @Salvy
    @Os Trigonum
     
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    yes. men should not be exposing themselves to children.
     
  7. basso

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    where has anyone said anything in this thread justifying church bombings.

    TYVFMIA.
     
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  8. LosPollosHermanos

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    This is how you know they aren’t sincere, there is some dopamine rush the modern liberal gets virtue signaling this stuff. The worst part is they are contributing to the problem

    in order to avoid a very practical conversation that is “stop transitioning minors with such a low threshold, protect females”

    rocketsjudoka: “bUT cHuRCH bOMbiNgs” as if it isn’t unanimous that violence is bad
     
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    This is absurd, hateful and wrong… and is political pandering to a select group of people that don’t care about being fair or just.

    Whether an adult transitions or dresses like the opposite gender is no concern of the AG or Governor Abbott.
     
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  12. Nook

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    Nope- a person that produces sperm is called a male. There is a clear scientific term for it. Same for a person that produces eggs - that is a female.

    I understand the decision to not use gender terms, as that is at least in part a social construct and it is welcoming and inclusive without being disrespectful to females.
     
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  13. Nook

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    I don’t think 99% of either side of this issue condone violence. If someone breaks the law, then they should be held accountable.

    Are there people like the Governor and AG in Texas attempting to gain politically by clearly pushing hate? Yeah.

    However there is a LOT of in between on these issues and it doesn’t seem like either side largely respects that.
     
  14. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    That article has nothing to do with children - you should read it before you respond.
     
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    But what is denied is how there is a link between violence and these issues. People make the false claim that they are trying to protect children to disguise their hate.
     
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    Speaking of strawmen, there was never a sexual assault on 3 underage girls in the shower. Let's not make stuff up if you want to have an honest debate here.
     
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  17. Nook

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    There are certainly some people that just hate transgendered people and will jump on any narrative that furthers their ability to further their agenda.

    However that isn’t the case for everyone that opposes puberty blockers or sex organ reconstruction on minors.

    This point seems to be forgotten as well. There is a big difference between believing that a person has to be an adult before permanently reconstructing their sex organ or taking harmful testosterone and blockers AND supporting people like the AG of Texas.
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I get that not everyone is 100% antitrans who oppose some of these initiatives - but a lot are.

    I am not comfortable with surgery of any type on minors either - including breast implants or nose jobs that many kids get as birthday presents. But the hormone treatment is a different story. Like I've said before, if someone is gender dysmorphic, it's horrifying to make them go through puberty. And to ban that for kids for political purposes is incredibly immoral in my opinion. Too many people feel they are experts in psychology and medical science, and that it's up to them to make decisions for others. In reality it should be a decision between parents, a child, and their doctors. Don't need politicians and people who aren't well informed making these decisions.
     
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  19. No Worries

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    I draw the line at school shootings with an assault rifle plus a large magazine. Absolutely no excuse when the trans kids run amok like that.

    Did my answer win a prize?
     
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    Sid Miller is a horrible person.

    That's all I know.
     
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