Public schools would have to display Ten Commandments under bill passed by Texas Senate

Donald Trump's only "values" are money and ego, really.

 

A lot of the "rules" in Abrahamic religion were borne out of practical considerations which stem from the time and place the rules were made. Like the prohibition of pork in Judaism and Islam. There is a definite intermingling of ethics and practical rules.

To answer your question, no, they are not. That's why I didn't say ALL of these commandments are values that should be taught.

The ten commandments might have been etched in stone a lot of times, but they are not for me. As my initial post stated, I do believe that largely, the Judeo-Christian values are a good bedrock for a Western, civilized society. That doesn't mean I agree with all of the rules of a particular religion or church.

 

What ten commandments are valuable to you if you already taught your kid to be empathetic and not be a psychopath?

If you teach your kids empathy do they need a poster that says "thou shalt not kill" on their wall? Or would they naturally come to that conclusion?

 

That covers my point.

Take Reformed Judaism, Orthodox Judaism, Anglicanism, Baptism, Mormonism, Roman Catholocism, and Orthodox Christianity. These religions all fall under the Judeo-Christian umbrella and yet they have very major theological and cultural disagreements with one another. The only binding thread is that they all worship a syncretic Canaanite god.

The phrase Judeo-Christian could be used to say we don’t follow Islamic law, or Dharmic law, or more recently Marxism. It could be used as a rebuke of secular liberalism. Or whatever you want. The Old Testament has many covenants that people may or may not follow.

 

I mean, this should be the most basic rule of all, right. Sadly, we see that it isn't. If Putin was actually religious, he couldn't be the monster he is, and the world would be in a better place.

 

Most Christians I know, and many Jewish people I know don't really believe in the fables from the bible or anything, but they believe in the core ethics of compassion, respect, tolerance, etc.

And whoever posted it, of course the "thou shall have no other gods" or whatever way it is phrased actually goes against that. Most moderately religious people I know aren't religious because they believe in some old dude with a beard in the sky, but because they understand that religion is a framework of values for them.

 

It isn't a rule. It's a conclusion humans make when they have basic empathy at least for people who aren't psychopaths. For psychopaths, it might be a defined rule because they need the defined rule as their brain can't naturally go to the conclusion that murder is bad.

No one needs to teach me murder is bad. Because I was taught to be empathetic. And from there I naturally understand the immoral act of taking a life.

 

From the Wiki:


Theologian and author Arthur A. Cohen, in The Myth of the Judeo-Christian Tradition, questioned the theological validity of the Judeo-Christian concept and suggested that it was essentially an invention of American politics, while Jacob Neusner, in Jews and Christians: The Myth of a Common Tradition, writes, "The two faiths stand for different people talking about different things to different people."[38]

Law professor Stephen M. Feldman, looking at the period before 1950, chiefly in Europe, sees the concept of a Judeo-Christian tradition as supersessionism, which he characterizes as "dangerous Christian dogma (at least from a Jewish perspective)", and as a "myth" which "insidiously obscures the real and significant differences between Judaism and Christianity."

 

That's good.

 

Again, your post is dumbassery at the highest level, because you didn't read my original post properly. If I had said, great, I support that bill, then you could have possibly had a point, but I actually said the opposite.

As a lawyer, you should always read and understand first, before you try to be a smartass.

Also, I do know more constitutions than you.

And your post was stupid.

 

So in essence we can conclude that commandments like "though shalt not kill" are only useful to psychopaths as they are the ones who need their hands held to the conclusion that murder is bad rather than naturally going to that conclusion based on their already predisposed empathy that allows them to understand the value of other people's lives.

 

Do you actually read anything? Seriously? People who read can elaborate on terms and beliefs without just spamming a link. A reader can express what they read in their own words. It's a basic part of literacy.

 

No. Some people need to learn the most basic things.

You are one of those people who hasn't understood some of the most basic things, but it doesn't stop you from talking a lot.

Keep patting yourself on the back because you wouldn't kill people even without the 10 commandments. lol

 

Yes I said some people might need their hands held to get to the conclusion that taking away a life is inherently bad. You seem to be one of those types as you seem to value these type of commandments as some effective tool in teaching morality. Well, maybe for like the percentage of the population that are psychopaths which is like 1% of the world's population... But that is millions of people. So I see your point I guess. There is a specific narrow utility for it.

 

You have a 3 year old and a teenager?

Damn son.

 

I don't have a teenager. 6 and 3. I started late.

 

These people don't understand the can of worms they want to open. This is a large, diverse country. The imposition and/or endorsement of one particular strain of Christianity (and this is reflective of a strain, not every denomination) opens the door for religiously-based discrimination in all walks of life. I thought the same about the Masterpiece Cake Shop case: advocating for Christians to be able to act out their individual interpretation of faith in public under the legal guise of "religious liberty" would permit a Jewish butcher to refuse to cut ham for you; It allows a Muslim clerk to deny your alcohol sale; it allows a fundamentalist doctor to reject a pregnant patient if they're unmarried.

We found a balance between public and private in this country that these people want to upend. I don't think it will end well for them.

 

Join the club.

 

I had a Muslim guy not let me get into the Lyft he was driving with alcohol. I went to a friend's birthday party at a bar. Had the Lyft driver pick me up at rhe bar. Had him stop at the store. I went in and bought some beer. When I went to get in the car he told me I couldn't get in his car with alcohol because it was against his religion and he left. I had to request another ride home from the store.

 

I had a Muslim mover carry everything but he refused to move two wine bottles.