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Are we sleeping on Will Levis?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Shark44, Dec 31, 2022.

  1. MadMax

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    Take Will Anderson or trade down. No need to take a total crapshoot on a QB in a draft we all knew wasn’t QB heavy coming in. We have a ton of needs beyond QB. Drafting a defensive alpha with the first first rounder of Coach Ryans’ tenure is good with me.
     
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    Remember this is lying season. I like Levis and AR of the four QBs the best. But Cas may just be trying to make some teams nervous that are focused on Will, hello Indy.

    I wouldn't be mad if we take Levis at #2, but would prefer a trade back for a treasure trove of assets.

    In any case, I love everyone is guessing and has no f__king clue what we're going to do. Well done Houston!
     
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    richardson should be the Texans pick. He is plug and play and let him learn on the fly just like josh Allen and cam were.
     
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  5. J.R.

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    Future Texan :rolleyes:
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    I just threw up in my mouth a bit.
     
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    I have no idea how so many people can be so confident in their own opinions relating to the draft.

    I have my preferences, but I’m no expert. If DeMeco and Slowik and Jerrod Johnson decide Levis is their guy, then that’s good enough for me. I’m in. LFG.
     
  8. tmacfor35

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    I mean, I agree with you to an extent. Look, I am no expert and probably ignorantly confident Stroud or Young are the best two guys in this draft.

    Saying that, I was a big Sauce Gardner fan last year. It was an easy selection and you ask why? He seemed more physically gifted and reminded me a lot of Richard Sherman. Felt like a layup opportunity compared to Stingley who was also great, but coming off Linsfranc which has ruined many players careers in the past. It proved to be a mistake because our scouting department over thought the process and passed on a guy who probably ends up being the best corner in the league for the next 5-10 years.

    For all intensive purposes, Will Levis is apparently super intelligent. Like Ryan Fitzpatrick type of intelligence with physical gifts. The issue is you throw on his tape, and this guy has Blaine Gabbert feet. You remember happy feet the movie? This is Will Levis. Throw in the fact, he is also inaccurate even with a normal base.... Its concerning. CJ Stroud, calmer, more production. Its being over looked.

    Will Levis - Every Throw vs Georgia - YouTube

    Pretty much 1 read the entire game. I hate it. The Texans are falling in love with off the field qualities more so than production.

    The Texans are over thinking this pick if they feel Levis is there guy. No iffs or butts.
     
  9. J.R.

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    4. WILL LEVIS | Kentucky 6037 | 229 lbs. | 5SR Madison, Conn. (Xavier) 6/27/1999 (age 23.83)

    BACKGROUND: Will Levis, who has three sisters, was born in the Boston suburb of Newton, Mass. and grew up in North Attleborough, Mass., before his family moved to Madison when he was age 7. He started playing baseball, basketball and football in elementary school and was often coached by his father (Mike). Going into his eighth-grade year, Levis started working with Travis Meyer, a private quarterback coach in Connecticut. He enrolled at Xavier High School, an all-boys Catholic school in Middletown, and started to grab the attention of coaches as a freshman. Levis officially moved up to varsity as a sophomore and became the starter, passing for 676 yards and nine touchdowns over six games. As a junior in 2016, he accounted for 1,972 passing yards and 25 total touchdowns (19 passing, 6 rushing), while throwing only five interceptions. As a senior captain, Levis set a school record for passing yards (2,793) and passing touchdowns (27) and added six rushing scores. He was named first team All-Conference and second team All-State as a senior. Levis also lettered in baseball and carried a 4.0 GPA through high school.

    A three-star recruit, Levis was the No. 28 pro-style quarterback in the 2018 recruiting class and the No. 2 recruit in Connecticut (CB Josh Jobe was No. 1). Playing in an area not known for producing high-level quarterbacks, his recruitment was lukewarm following his junior season. However, Levis attended Nike’s The Opening in April 2017 and became the first quarterback to win the Nike Football Rating MVP, with the highest score in the country among quarterbacks. After that camp, his recruitment went from stagnant to robust, as he received several offers from Ivy League (Dartmouth, Harvard, Princeton, Yale) and Power 5 programs (Florida State, Iowa, North Carolina, Ole Miss, Syracuse). However, Levis had his eye on Penn State because of the proximity to home, and he committed to James Franklin almost on the spot in July 2017, then stayed loyal to the Nittany Lions through signing day. After three seasons at Penn State, Levis found himself blocked on the depth chart by Sean Clifford and entered the transfer portal. He graduated from Penn State in only three years with a degree in finance (May 2021) and enrolled at Kentucky, where he is working on his master’s degree in finance. His father (Mike) was a receiver at Division III Denison (1986-1989). His mother (Beth) played soccer at Yale (1986-90) and was a two-time All-American. His younger sister (Jill) currently plays lacrosse at Central Connecticut State. His maternal grandfather (David Kelley) was the last three-sport varsity athlete at UMass, playing football, lacrosse and wrestling (he later coached at Yale). His great-grandfather (Alva Kelley) was an All- American defensive end at Cornell (1938-40) and later the head coach at Brown (1951-58), Colgate (1959-61) and Hobart (1963-70). His uncle (David Kelley) played football at Yale. Levis opted out of the 2022 bowl game and declined his invitation to the 2023 Senior Bowl.

    STRENGTHS: Well-built athlete with impressive physical traits ... lightning-quick release with above-average velocity to drive the ball to every inch of the field ... strong in the pocket to brush off tackle attempts and make accurate, off-balanced throws ... stands tall versus the blitz and can withstand constant pressure ... improved pocket footwork in his drops and also his slides/shuffles to buy time ... composed and focused on money downs (71.6 percent completions on third downs in 2022) ... sells play fakes with conviction to draw coverage ... offers functional run skills and is a physical finisher to routinely pick up extra yardage after contact ... extremely high pain tolerance to bounce back and play through injuries ... super-competitive demeanor and not afraid to fail ... his high school and college coaches speak highly of his leadership, presence and intensity as a worker (NFL scout: “Football is really important to him.”) ... voted a team captain in both of his seasons at Kentucky and immediately became “the guy” when he arrived in Lexington (Kentucky OC Liam Coen: “The team feeds off of him. ... His personality is one of which that guys naturally follow.”) ... posted a 17-7 career record as a college starter (8-7 versus the SEC, 9-0 against non-SEC team) ... accounted for 43 passing touchdowns in his two seasons at Kentucky, which ranks No. 5 in school history.

    WEAKNESSES: Average passing instincts, decision-making and accuracy ... doesn’t consistently trust his vision, creating too many hitches/pullbacks with his arm or disruptions in his base ... predetermines throws before reading ... will lock onto receivers and trusts the play design to a fault ... needs to refine his lower-body passing mechanics to keep all his movements on the same page ... inconsistent deep ball trajectory, often underthrowing his target ... his accuracy is passable, but ball placement must improve to help his receivers from having to adjust ... doesn’t throw receivers open and needs to anticipate windows quicker when asked to play in rhythm ... holds the ball too long and takes some unnecessary sacks, especially when late to read blitz ... missed one game as a senior because of a left foot injury (October 2022), which affected him over the second half of the season ... his production declined in 2022 with a new supporting cast.

    SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Kentucky, Levis had a promising 2021 season in offensive coordinator Liam Coen’s scheme (31.8 points per game, 10 wins). However, he struggled with consistency in 2022, as the offense saw a complete makeover with Wan’Dale Robinson and multiple offensive linemen departing to the NFL and new play-caller Rich Scangarello taking over for Coen, who left to become the Los Angeles Rams’ offensive coordinator. Physically built for the pro game, Levis is strong in the pocket, moves very well for his size and has a power arm to deliver with velocity and accuracy from various platforms. However, defenses are too easily able to put doubt in his mind, which leads to forced or inaccurate throws because of hesitancy in his game. Overall, Levis needs more reps to continue developing his read efficiency and ball placement, but he has an NFL starter’s skill set with his impressive physical tools (size, arm, athleticism) and exceptional competitive toughness. Similarities with Carson Wentz should be considered both a positive and negative, but he has starter-level traits and upside.

    GRADE: 1st Round (No. 14 overall)
     
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    Re Zimmelmann's tweet - one is forced to consider what more could Slowik's offense possibly get from Levis? Iow, have we glimpsed his future already?
     
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    https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/dr...ack-fatal-flaws-young-stroud-levis-richardson
     
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    I don't know **** about **** but this is my basic attitude if you put a gun to my head.

    If you aren't sold on the QBs, don't force it.

    It's not my first choice, but I believe Demeco should be given the benefit of the doubt that he can put together a winner without an elite QB.

    Let's not pay filet prices for chicken salad.
     
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    I watched Levis a lot (PSU and UK) and he is the prototypical "Combine Guy" whose tests and physical attributes scream 1st rounder. Then you watch his performance and it just doesn't match.

    When you see that, it says one of two things: (i) he is literally too smart to play football; he overthinks and gets nervous because he cannot make a decision in quick enough time or (ii) he is scared. He is so afraid to get hit that even though he knows its not the best play he just wants to get the ball out of his hands and get out of the way. That is a bad sign for a guy who will be playing on this team.

    To me, if you are going to draft Levis then you may as well keep Davis Mills III and wait until next year. Just know that when Stroud throws for 3500 yards and 24 touchdowns this season for the Colts, everyone in the league will be laughing at us. Just like we all laugh at the Bears for passing on Mahomes and Watson to take Mitch Trubisky. Ironically, Trubisky and Levis are very similar players.
     
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    I think it’s the first because the way he stands like a statue when getting hit with very little pocket movement tells me he’s not afraid. He’s also a very smart guy and he’s older. I think it really is that he’s an over thinker and I don’t think you can bank on that being coached out.
     
  17. Mr.Scarface

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    Ambien. Keep taking the Ambien.
     
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    If Carolina was pandering about stroud or young to get us to move up, who’s to say we aren’t doing the same to Indy/raiders with levis. I think we are accepting that young isn’t going to be there so now feign Levis interest to get someone to move up..

    *dear god I hope this is the case, I’m scared we actually draft levis because caserio thinks he smarter than everyone*
     
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    I still think they go Stroud
     
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    So let’s get this straight, if it’s Levis it’s Caserio pick and if it’s Stroud (or anyone you want) it’s a Demeco pick?
    Just getting the reasoning out now
     

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