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2023 Season Astros General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 10, 2023.

  1. Snake Diggit

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    I wouldn’t think that would be anywhere near enough and I have a hard time seeing Houston being able to compete with other teams for Ohtani. Mets, Yankees, Rangers, and Rays seem like they could have the prospects I would expect LAA to demand. Of course I hope I’m wrong since Ohtani is a true difference maker.
     
  2. sealclubber1016

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    The market for Ohtani will be wild if he does become available. He would only be a rental, but picking up a front end starter and middle of the order bat at the same time is big, not to mention the hype he would bring your club.

    I would imagine the big spenders who hope to retain him long term will make the strongest bids.
     
  3. Screaming Fist

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    Whoever obtains him at the deadline will have to seriously overpay to do so, which I don't see the Astros doing especially considering they would have no interest whatsoever in signing him once he becomes a FA.
     
  4. No Worries

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    I think that there will be an overpay to get Ohtani at the deadline for less than a half of season. But not much. The Dodgers and the Padres will be the most likely suspects.

    Mets do not have the prospects, so it won't be them. But I would be surprised to see the Mets get outbid for Ohtani in the off-season.
     
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  5. Rockets FTW

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    In some alternate universe, it would be like the Astros in 98' acquiring Randy Johnson and Mark McGwire.
     
  6. Screaming Fist

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    Can anyone explain why Garcia generally throws his cutter more against RHB than LHB even though the pitch has had a lower xwOBA against LHB than RHB? Cutter's are typically neutral in terms of platoon splits, and while Garcia's is sweepier than most cutters, it still performs well against LHB.
     
  7. IdStrosfan

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    I think the Angels would want a combination of controllable proven players and high ceiling prospects.

    They probably want at least 1 high ceiling/high floor SP prospect in the deal and the Astros have none. Will want Hunter Brown.

    Maybe they would settle for Luis Garcia, Drew Gilbert, and someone like Kenni Gomez.

    The problem is that would be too much if you know going in that you will not extend him.

    And he won't settle for less than 8 /$400M or 10 /$450M at the extreme minimum.

    Does Crane do that?
     
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  8. No Worries

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    Zero chance the Astros give up Hunter Brown. If Forrest Whitley is on-fire in AAA, you might add him to the conservation ... but the Astros may not want to part with a on-fire Whitley either. The Astros do not have the depth to give up a top prospect. Maybe in a year or two.

    The Mets might go higher. Their owner is cra-cra.
     
  9. Wulaw Horn

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    Ha ha no. And you are at least 50M light on the extension but probably 150M light. I thought 10/500 was the number but 12/600 the more I think about it.
     
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  10. Buck Turgidson

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    If ~25/30 teams know that he will not sign with them, then that seriously hampers the trade market and what he's worth in prospects for a partial season.

    See: Randy Johnson
     
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    I've been on the belief Crane is willing to pay him a premium for 10 years but will give him an opt out in year 3 and 4 so he can go chase a massive payday.

    If Crane was willing to give JV 45 million, he's willing to drop 55-60 per year knowing Ohtani will opt out again. We will see how badly Ohtani wants to win.
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    Curious...how/why do you believe this?
     
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    I agree with your numbers that's why I said EXTREME MINIMUM.

    There is 0.000000001% chance my numbers get it done

    There is 0% anything less does.
     
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    It's more of a Crane was willing to pay JV said number and why wouldn't he want to pay Ohtani that?

    Ohtani is the superior player. More of a common sense play and with all the rumors he's wanted to play for a winning franchise. It just makes sense that the Astros would be in on him for a deal where he can opt out on his age 30/31 season.

    Also, if we make this play, could see us dealing Bregman or letting him explore other options. Astros have shown time and time again that they don't mind letting stars leave.
     
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    I’m guessing the deadline cost to acquire Ohtani would be somewhere in the ballpark for Soto?
     

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